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Post by Henry Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:23

http://www.cricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/416499.html

Seems a bit self righteous. Not that any of those guys can teach the doosra anyway, but it seems a bit high and mighty, and stupid, considering it causes batsmen problems and is deemed legal by the ICC, to announce that it wont be taught.

Shooting themselves in the foot?
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Post by Shoeshine Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:25

I think they deserve praise for taking a principled stance, personally.

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Post by taipan Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:26

Or a double bluff?
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Post by Bradman Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:28

The doosra's easy. Instead of bowling a leggie with a leggie's action, you use your elbow to propell the ball with an offies action, and then your wrist to spin it the other way.

It's illegal but as you can't be called for it, go for it.
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Post by JGK Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:32

I note that most of the people on the panel are actually leggies.

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Post by Shoeshine Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:35

Bradman wrote:The doosra's easy. Instead of bowling a leggie with a leggie's action, you use your elbow to propell the ball with an offies action, and then your wrist to spin it the other way.

It's illegal but as you can't be called for it, go for it.

You can also do it with just your fingers. I know some of the young spinners going through the counties are taught it that way. The ball doesn't turn overly much, but it doesn't have to. It means that it won't affect the arm to anything like the same extent, if at all.

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Post by Henry Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:38

The ICC allows the doosra, so if Cricket Australia has any pragmatic sense, it will get rid of this lot, and bring in some coaches who will teach the doosra.
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Post by taipan Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:40

Henry wrote:The ICC allows the doosra, unless you are South African.
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Post by Bradman Mon 27 Jul 2009, 12:58

JGK wrote:I note that most of the people on the panel are actually leggies.

And the article would suggest they agree it can't be bowled.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 27 Jul 2009, 13:01

They may change their collective minds yet. It's early doosra after all.
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Post by Henry Mon 27 Jul 2009, 13:03

Teaching the doosra will mean CA having to employ some darkies.


Aint gonna happen.
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Post by DJ_Smerk Mon 27 Jul 2009, 13:16

Andrew Symonds MIGHT be allowed back, for good behaviour?
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Post by PeterCS Mon 27 Jul 2009, 13:43

Oh dear.
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Post by LeFromage Mon 27 Jul 2009, 17:23

Henry wrote:The ICC allows the doosra...

No, they allow people with a faulty action to get away with bowling it.

The "doosra" itself is perfectly lawful and can be bowled with an entirely legal action as proven by Saqlain Mushtaq and the rubbish Alex Loudon. They both bowled it differently, but were both able to get the ball to turn away from the right-hander using an off-spinner's action. I'm sure there are others who can do the same.

The ICC didn't "allow" them to do anything, as no laws were broken.


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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jul 2009, 18:59

Henry wrote:Seems a bit self righteous.

Yeah. IMO these particular Aussies are stuck in the 'fifties 'throw-dragger' mindset. If the ICC says < 15 degrees elbow flex is legal, teach the thing. Remember when reverse swing was considered cheating? The game evolves.

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