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Post by Josh Carney Thu 18 Oct 2007, 23:24

Many killed. The SA tour may be impacted.

http://hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=049fc3cf-ddf4-441e-a487-c3e4ef94c30c&&Headline=115+people+killed+in+Bhutto+parade+blasts+in+Pakistan

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Post by Zat Fri 19 Oct 2007, 01:59

Imagine all the people...

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Post by HH_pink Fri 19 Oct 2007, 02:20

... dying for tomorrow?
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Post by horace Fri 19 Oct 2007, 02:28

many killed...dreadful news
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 02:58

Official count it at 126 and still climbing. The frightening thing is that this could be the start of a period of real bloody turmoil given everything that is going on in that country.

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Post by tac Fri 19 Oct 2007, 03:07

Very sad. I feel for the Pakistanis and hope things don't degenerate into a bloody mess.
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Post by HH_pink Fri 19 Oct 2007, 03:11

The situation has been hopeless for a while now. Musharraf tried his best (or it seemed so), but after a couple of attacks on his own life, seemed to give up. Karachi's always been the troublemaker.
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 04:11

HH_pink wrote:The situation has been hopeless for a while now. Musharraf tried his best (or it seemed so), but after a couple of attacks on his own life, seemed to give up. Karachi's always been the troublemaker.
Situaion is much more complex than Karachi, they have a full fledged war in the NWFP. The Balochis want to separate, there is tension between the Shias and Sunnis and now increasingly between Punjabis and Pashtuns. Aspects of their Intelligence agency back and aid the Taliban and the anti american sentiments. There is tension on both the eastern and western borders with India and Afghanistan. There are many who want a fundamental islamic republic and cannot stand a woman like Bhutto in the limelight. And Mushy was no saviour he was self preserving and IMO two faced conniving dictator whose games have come back to haunt him. Then there is the international pressure about terrorist camps, AQ Khan etc. There are more issues such as the Warlords in the Uzbek border etc. Pakistan's future as a country is really in the balance. Unless they can find some common values to unite it may well go the way of Yugoslavia and that after much blood shed.

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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 04:28

Musharaff has called this a conspirary against democracy !! This from the man who has been the dictator for almost a decade after overthrowing a democratically elected leader Nawaz Sharif.

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Post by doremi Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:22

This could very well be Mushy's design.
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:24

More likely somebody from the ISI. It does help Mushy's designs to keep telling the west that he is their last and only saviour. Too many games in Pakistan.

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Post by embee Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:25

LJH reckons it was Al Kider ...
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:30

That should justifify the Iraq invasion.

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Post by embee Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:31

Josh Carney wrote:That should justifify the Iraq invasion.

...and Afghanistan too.

'...should strengthen the resolve not to let them win in Iraq and Afghanistan'
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:35

I was being sarcastic there Embee. Afghanistan was justified, but Iraq became a terror bed only after the invastion. Instead of Iraq the coalition should have focussed on the Pakistan training camps and the infiltration if they really wanted to tackle the roots of Taliban/Al Queda.

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Post by embee Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:37

JC ..

LJH actually said what I quoted (or near enough) after the news of the bombings this morning ...
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:39

Not surprising at all. Given the election and the opposition to Iraq (not Afghanistan) he will be clutching at whatever.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:39


BIN LADEN'S FORMER HANDLING OFFICER WAS IN CHARGE OF BENAZIR'S SECURITY
INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM MONITOR---PAPER NO.288
B.RAMAN

According to latest reports, at least one hundred and thirty-two persons---20 of them police officers deputed to protect Mrs.Benazir Bhutto, former Prime Minister--- were killed in a suspected suicide attack on the convoy by which she was being taken from the Karachi airport to the Mausoleum of Mohammad Ali Jinnah on the night of October 18,2007.The suicide attack or attacks were clearly aimed to kill her on her arrival in Karachi to a triumphant welcome by her supporters, but she managed to escape.

2. Reliable sources say one or two suicide bombers were involved. The bullet-proof vehicle by which she was being taken by her supporters was protected by two cordons of security guards. The inner cordon consisted of security guards engaged by her Pakistan People's Party Parliamentarians to protect her. Many of them were former policemen and ex-servicemen enjoying the confidence of her party and her confidence. The outer cordon consisted of police officers of the Sindh Police and plain-clothes security officers of Pakistan's Intelligence Bureau, which is now headed by Brig.Ejaz Shah, a former officer of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), who is a close personal friend of Gen.Pervez Musharraf and Gen.(retd). Mohammad Aziz, a Kashmiri officer belonging to the Sudan tribe, who orchestrated the overthrow of Mr.Nawaz Sharif as the Prime Minister in October,1999. Shah is also a close personal friend of many Punjabi leaders of the Pakistan Muslim League (Qaide Azam), which is opposed to Benazir's return.

{PML(Q) is the party of Shujat Hussain and Rashid.}

3. According to these sources, the suicide bomber or bombers managed to penetrate the security cordon of the Police and IB officers without being frisked, but could not penetrate the inner cordon of security guards of the PPPP. When they stopped them, they blew themselves up at a distance from her vehicle. At the time of the explosion, she was not standing on top of the vehicle. She had gone inside the vehicle to rest for a while. This seems to have contributed to her miraculous escape. Had she been standing on top she might have been injured, if not killed.

4. There are many elements in Pakistan and in Karachi itself, which are opposed to her and are determined to prevent her return to power. These include the various jihadi terrorist groups, Al Qaeda and its allies, those involved in the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl and the supporters of Dawood Ibrahim, the Indian mafia leader, who has been given shelter in Karachi by the Pakistani intelligence agencies.The anger against her is due to various reasons---- the fact that she is a woman, her close proximity to the US and her open statements supporting the US on various issues. They see her as the US' cat's paw. It is difficult to say at present who might have been responsible for the attack on her.

5. Brig. Ejaz Shah has been strongly criticised by Mrs.Benazir and her supporters for the security failure and they have demanded his removal and arrest. When he was in the ISI,he used to be the handling officer of Osama bin Laden and Mulla Omar, the Amir of the Taliban. After Musharraf seized power in October,1999, he had him posted as the Home Secretary of Punjab. It was to him that Omar Sheikh, who orchestrated the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl, the American journalist, surrendered because Omar Sheikh knew him before and was confident that Ejaz Shah would see that he was not tortured.

6. After the murder of Pearl, there were many allegations regarding Shah's role. Musharraf tried to protect him by sending him as the Ambassador to Australia or Indonesia. Both the countries reportedly refused to accept him. Musharraf then made him the DG of the IB. As the DG of the IB, he has seen to it that the death sentence against Omar Sheikh for his role in the Pearl case was not executed. The courts have been repeatedly postponing hearings on the appeal filed by Omar Sheikh against the death sentence.

7. Ejaz Shah played an active role in the campaign to discredit Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Caudhury of the Pakistan Supreme Court after he started calling for the files of a large number of missing persons, who were taken into custody by the police and the intelligence agencies. Reliable sources in Pakistan reported that Gen.Pervez Kiani, who was the DG of the ISI at the time of the suspension of the Chief Justice, was against the suspension, but Musharraf suspended him on the advice of Ejaz Shah and Maj-Gen.Nadim Taj, who was at that time the head of the Directorate-General of Military Intelligence.Maj.Gen.Taj has since been promoted as Lt.Gen. and has succeeded Kiyani as the DG of the ISI.

8. While the ISI under Kiyani refused to file any affidavit against the suspended Chief Justice before the court when it was hearing the petition of the Chief Justice against his suspension, the IB and the DGMI filed affidavits giving details of all the information which their organisations had indicating the alleged unsuitability of the Chief Justice to head the Supreme Court.

9. Despite the political embarrassment caused by the case, which ended in a fiasco, Ejaz Shah continues to enjoy the total confidence of Musharraf.

10. Annexed is an article written by me in September,2003, on Ejaz Shah and Damiel Pearl's case, which was carried by the South Asia Analysis Group (SAAG) and the Asia Timesonline.(19-10-07)

(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and ,presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai. E-mail:seventyone2@gmail.com )

ANNEXURE

Daniel Pearl's case in limbo (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/EJ01Df07.html)
By B Raman

The case relating to the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl, the US journalist, in the beginning of last year continues to be in a limbo, with no action by the government of Pakistan President General Pervez Musharraf to have the hearing on the appeal filed by the accused expedited.

In the meanwhile, one of the dramatis personae - a former officer of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), who used to be the handling officer of Omar Sheikh, the principal accused, and one of the handling officers of Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar - the Taliban leader - could be rewarded with an ambassadorial appointment.

On July 15, 2002, a special anti-terrorism court in Hyderabad, Sindh province, found Ahmed Omar Sheikh, Syed Salman Saquib, Sheikh Muhammad Adil and Fahad Naseem guilty of the kidnapping and murder of Pearl. While Omar Sheikh was sentenced to death, the other three were sentenced to life imprisonment. Shortly thereafter, they appealed against their sentences before a division bench of the Sindh High Court.

Though it is now a year since the appeal was filed, there has been no progress in the hearing of the appeal. The defense lawyers have repeatedly absented themselves from the court, an action that has already adjourned the hearing six times. The sixth adjournment was granted on September 25. The case has now been fixed for hearing on October 21.

The court warned that if the defense lawyers do not appear on that date, it would dispense with their services and appoint a government lawyer to defend the accused.

Pakistan's Anti-Terrorism Act, which has been repeatedly amended by successive governments to ensure expeditious disposal of the trial and the appeal in terrorism-related cases, contains adequate provisions for preventing such repeated adjournments and other means for delaying a trial.

When Musharraf had former prime minister Nawaz Sharif prosecuted under the Anti-Terrorism Act, the prosecution under his instructions ensured that the trial was disposed of and Sharif convicted within the time limits laid down by the act. In the case relating to the murder of Pearl, the prosecution itself has apparently been colluding with the defense lawyers and has refrained from moving the court to stop the delaying tactics repeatedly adopted by the defense lawyers.

In the meanwhile, Brigadier (retired) Ejaz Shah, Home Secretary of Punjab, before whom Omar Sheikh had surrendered in February last year, has reportedly been selected by Musharraf for posting as Pakistan's ambassador to Indonesia.

Before joining as home secretary, Punjab, he worked in the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and was once Omar Sheikh's principal handling officer, as well as one of bin Laden's and Mullah Omar's. When the Lahore and Karachi police started searching for Omar Sheikh after the kidnapping of Pearl, he surrendered to Ejaz Shah as he was afraid that the Karachi police might torture him.

Ejaz Shah immediately informed General Mohammad Aziz Khan, presently chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, who was No 2 in the ISI until October 1998, and the two carefully debriefed Omar Sheikh as to what he should tell the police during his interrogation. He was kept in their informal custody for a week and, thereafter, handed over to the police, who were told to announce that they had arrested him while searching for him, without mentioning that he had voluntarily surrendered to Shah.

Aziz and Shah did not want Omar Sheikh to admit to the Karachi police any role in the explosion outside the Legislative Assembly of Jammu & Kashmir in October, 2001, in the attack on the Indian parliament in December, 2001, and about his having told Lieutenant-General Ehsanul Haq, the present director general of the ISI, who was Corps Commander in Peshawar before October, 2001, about the plans of al-Qaeda to carry out terrorist strikes in the US.

However, Omar Sheikh disregarded their advice and told the Karachi police about these events. The News, a prestigious daily, came to know of some of his confessions to the Karachi police. The editor of the paper rejected a request from the ISI not to publish the story. Musharraf thereupon forced the owner to sack the editor, who went into exile in the US fearing a threat to his life from the ISI.

Thereafter, Musharraf selected Shah for posting as High Commissioner to Australia, which reportedly refused to give its agreement to his appointment. It is now learnt that Musharraf has instructed his Foreign Office that he should be sent as ambassador to Indonesia. It remains to be seen whether Jakarta agrees.

If it does, this will be the fourth instance in recent years of ex-ISI officers being appointed to head Pakistani diplomatic missions in this region. The other three missions are those at Pyongyang, North Korea, which has always been headed by an ISI officer who had worked in the division responsible for the clandestine procurement of nuclear materials and missiles; Kuala Lumpur, which is the nerve center for supervising the activities of the Tablighi Jamaat, a conservative Islamic missionary group founded in India 75 years ago, in the Southeast Asian region, Australia and New Zealand; and Bangkok, which is a suspected transit point for the infiltration of terrorists into India by air.

www.saag.org
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Post by Josh Carney Fri 19 Oct 2007, 05:45

If it were a movie the ongoings in Pakistan would be absolutely enthralling and a sure blockbuster. As a "reality show" it is sickening and scary.

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Post by mynah Fri 19 Oct 2007, 10:40

Idiots. If the US feels compelled to help Pakistan in the aftermath, the country is going to be in real trouble.
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Post by prasad14 Fri 19 Oct 2007, 10:51

You know the saying abt things coming back to bite u'r own behind....

reflects a bit abt whats happening there

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Post by mynah Fri 19 Oct 2007, 11:04

prasad14 wrote:You know the saying abt things coming back to bite u'r own behind....

reflects a bit abt whats happening there
Mind you, you don't have much in the line of oil or gold, so the US may desist from taking an arsenip.
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