Re: **US Open - Official Thread**

[skully]

So it's still raining??

[PlanetPakistan]

Djokovic wins the 2nd set, match tied at 1 all

[Josh Carney]

Nadal wins third and has a break in the fourth. Go Rafa.

[Josh Carney]

Double break for Rafa. Grand Slam only a few minutes away by the looks of it.

[Josh Carney]

So Rafa > Roger > Pete ..... Me thinks so.

[PlanetPakistan]

What a player!

9 slams at 24!!

[Zat]

Rafa now > Roger now? Perhaps...

Rafa now > Roger at his peak? Doubtful...

[PlanetPakistan]

So Rafa > Roger > Pete ..... Me thinks so.

At this rate YES but i don't think Rafa is going to win too many slams after the age of 26-27 SIMPLY due to the way he plays the game

[horace]

Rafa now > SRT?

[PlanetPakistan]

Rafa now > Roger now? Perhaps...

Rafa now > Roger at his peak? Doubtful...

look at it this way

This was Nadal's WORST surface and he won the slam with out any trouble what so ever(only lost 1 set).

[Josh Carney]

So Rafa > Roger > Pete ..... Me thinks so.

At this rate YES but i don't think Rafa is going to win too many slams after the age of 26-27 SIMPLY due to the way he plays the game

That is why he has become very selective about which tournaments he partakes. He took a long break after Wimbledon. You will see him do that after the US Open as well. He has realised that it is one way to increase his longevity.

[Don't quote me]

So Rafa > Roger > Pete ..... Me thinks so.

At this rate YES but i don't think Rafa is going to win too many slams after the age of 26-27 SIMPLY due to the way he plays the game

People have been saying that for yrs

People used to liken him to chang and hewitt and I remember people saying that he would be finished at 25, the only thing that was finished at 25 was his personal grand slam.

He is hitting the ball much flatter and serving much bigger than he used to, so points are finishing earlier than before.

[Guest]

If Nadal had not been around this era then Federer would have won 2 grand slams by now. I hope he doesn't beat Federer's record as Federer is far nicer to watch, but I think he probably will end up beating him.

[Henry]

If both of them were at their peak i'd say Federer is better. Just quietly, Rafa is probably stronger mentally. Federer is a fantastic front runner but hasn't battled back from adversity (ie 2 sets down) all that often.

[Zat]

To be fair, Federer has rarely been 2 sets down.

[Josh Carney]

The aspect that impresses me about Nadal is his ability to learn, evolve and conquer his weaknesses. Unlike Roger who appears to be naturally gifted Nadal's case seems to have been one of mind over matter. For a man who was not given any chance outside Clay to be able to conquer all the other surfaces one by one is phenomenal, something the likes of McEnroe, Sampras, Edberg and Lendl could not achieve.

[Zat]

Federer 2 sets down in Grand Slams, career:

2010
Wimbledon R128 Alejandro Falla (COL) 60 W 5-7, 4-6, 6-4, 7-6(1), 6-0

2009
French Open R16 Tommy Haas (USA) 63 W 6-7(4), 5-7, 6-4, 6-0, 6-2
Australian Open R16 Tomas Berdych (CZE) 21 W 4-6, 6-7(4), 6-4, 6-4, 6-2

2008
Wimbledon F Rafael Nadal (ESP) 2 L 4-6, 4-6, 7-6(5), 7-6( 8 ), 7-9
French Open F Rafael Nadal (ESP) 2 L 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
Australian Open S Novak Djokovic (SRB) 3 L 5-7, 3-6, 6-7(5)

2001
Wimbledon Q Tim Henman (GBR) 11 L 5-7, 6-7(6), 6-2, 6-7(6)
French Open R64 Sargis Sargsian (ARM) 115 W 4-6, 3-6, 6-2, 6-4, 9-7
French Open Q Alex Corretja (ESP) 13 L 5-7, 4-6, 5-7
Australian Open R32 Arnaud Clement (FRA) 18 L 6-7(5), 4-6, 4-6

2000
US Open R128 Peter Wessels (NED) 89 W 4-6, 4-6, 6-3, 7-5, 3-4 RET
US Open R32 Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) 12 L 5-7, 6-7(6), 6-1, 6-7(6)
Wimbledon R128 Yevgeny Kafelnikov (RUS) 5 L 5-7, 5-7, 6-7(6)
French Open R16 Alex Corretja (ESP) 10 L 5-7, 6-7(7), 2-6
Australian Open R32 Arnaud Clement (FRA) 54 L 1-6, 4-6, 3-6

So in the early days, he wasn't much chop, but since he went to World #1, he lost the first three times he was 0-2 down, but then won the next three.

[Mick Sawyer]

something the likes of McEnroe, Sampras, Edberg and Lendl could not achieve

hmmm McEnroe; 0 from 5 at the Oz & 0 from 10 in Paris.

[Josh Carney]

something the likes of McEnroe, Sampras, Edberg and Lendl could not achieve

hmmm McEnroe; 0 from 5 at the Oz & 0 from 10 in Paris.

And one of them down under was a default.

[JGK]

Except when he loses - which is quite often these days.

[Don't quote me]

If Nadal had not been around this era then Federer would have won 2 grand slams by now. I hope he doesn't beat Federer's record as Federer is far nicer to watch, but I think he probably will end up beating him.

I'm not sure what you mean by that

If Nadal was the same age as Federer, Roger may have only had 2 grand slam tournaments at all. When Rafa was injured.

[Guest]

If Nadal had not been around this era then Federer would have won 2 grand slams by now. I hope he doesn't beat Federer's record as Federer is far nicer to watch, but I think he probably will end up beating him.

I'm not sure what you mean by that

If Nadal was the same age as Federer, Roger may have only had 2 grand slam tournaments at all. When Rafa was injured.

Laughable, Federer's game is clearly not what it was a few years ago, I think you are forgetting just what an unstoppable force he was at his peak.

Nadal may break Federer's grand slam record but he hasn't a hope in hell of breaking his grand slam semi final run.

[Don't quote me]

If Nadal had not been around this era then Federer would have won 2 grand slams by now. I hope he doesn't beat Federer's record as Federer is far nicer to watch, but I think he probably will end up beating him.

I'm not sure what you mean by that

If Nadal was the same age as Federer, Roger may have only had 2 grand slam tournaments at all. When Rafa was injured.

Laughable, Federer's game is clearly not what it was a few years ago, I think you are forgetting just what an unstoppable force he was at his peak.

Nadal may break Federer's grand slam record but he hasn't a hope in hell of breaking his grand slam semi final run.

I think you are forgetting that Nadal is a better player than he was 2 yrs ago, esp on the hard court.

Thus Roger was getting pumped on all surfaces by a Rafa that wasn't even at his peak then!!

[lardbucket]

I think this argument is done and dusted now.

Nadal >>> Federer

(the new L > T)

[skully]

Did I hear correctly that's 5 straight Majors won by a Majors virgin?

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