Why is Steyn so carp against England?

by Guest Fri 27 Nov 2009, 16:55

I'm probably calling the thunder here.... but he averages 44 against us in tests and 79 in JAMODIs.

He looks world class against everyone else. What is going on?

by PeterCS Fri 27 Nov 2009, 17:27

Perhaps he has a soft spot for the Poms.

by DJ_Smerk Fri 27 Nov 2009, 18:55

It's really strange, but it's almost as if certain bowlers in the World try to hard against England, or they overestimate them.

Steyn v Australia = Steyn
Steyn v England = England

by Guest Fri 27 Nov 2009, 19:12

DJ_Smerk wrote:It's really strange, but it's almost as if certain bowlers in the World try to hard against England, or they overestimate them.

Bung being the other obvious one.

by lardbucket Fri 27 Nov 2009, 23:37

Bung was mostly crap, regardless of the opposition.

by Red Sat 28 Nov 2009, 04:09

Spending too much time with the avatar on the left? Smile

by embee Sat 28 Nov 2009, 05:07

Pommy batsmen aren't good enough to nick his outswingers

by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2009, 09:05

embee wrote:Pommy batsmen aren't good enough to nick his outswingers

Mate, Ian Bell is good enough to edge anything to slip.

by embee Sat 28 Nov 2009, 15:43

Bell's edges are deliberately dropped until he has made a "nice" 40 to stop the poms replacing him with Ramps

by PeterCS Sat 28 Nov 2009, 17:52

Or anyone.

by LeFromage Sat 28 Nov 2009, 18:33

I'm sure it has something to do with Steyn having played for the Essex Wideboys.

He's tainted by that association, and none of the England batsmen fear him as a result.

"How good can he be - he used to play for Essex..."

by DJ_Smerk Sat 28 Nov 2009, 18:34

Does that mean that Cosgrove is virtually invisible to England?

by embee Mon 30 Nov 2009, 02:03

Cosgrove is visible from Space

by PlanetPakistan Mon 30 Nov 2009, 02:28

Steyn will RIP England apart...

by DJ_Smerk Mon 30 Nov 2009, 07:49

embee wrote:Cosgrove is visible from Space

Wow, the ECB should move their radar a bit further out then...

by Brass Monkey Mon 30 Nov 2009, 12:23

Well, the fact he'd played 9 FC matches when he first played us is quite a chunk of the reason that he averages 44 in Tests versus us.

by lardbucket Mon 30 Nov 2009, 12:26

bringing facts into it again ... qunt

by Brass Monkey Mon 30 Nov 2009, 12:41

I know, I know. The thing is, Rob likes to possibly see 20 seconds on the news or read a single article and then cast as many aspersions that come into his head. He doesn't like cricket - he likes 'cricket'.

by PeterCS Mon 30 Nov 2009, 13:35

But I don't think he likes "creek-itt".

by taipan Mon 30 Nov 2009, 13:41

Brass Monkey wrote:I know, I know. The thing is, Rob likes to possibly see 20 seconds on the news or read a single article and then cast as many aspersions that come into his head. He doesn't like cricket - he likes 'cricket'.

I think he reads Spanky

by JKLever Mon 30 Nov 2009, 13:57

Dello wrote:I'm sure it has something to do with Steyn having played for the Essex Wideboys.

He's tainted by that association, and none of the England batsmen fear him as a result.

"How good can he be - he used to play for Essex..."

He was actually utter sh!t for us, got spanked to all parts. Worse than Hugh Page was as an overseas signing for us....

Not even the glow of glory of playing for Essex could make him perform

by lardbucket Mon 30 Nov 2009, 14:16

'the glow of glory of playing for Essex'

I think some were taken in until you wrote this

by Guest Mon 30 Nov 2009, 18:46

Brass Monkey wrote:Well, the fact he'd played 9 FC matches when he first played us is quite a chunk of the reason that he averages 44 in Tests versus us.

Fair if partial answer, because it doesn't explain how he failed to rip up trees against us in the 2008 series, three years into his career.

And why did he average 60-odd in the Anglo-SA ODIs in 2008, oh wise follower of cricket instead of 'cricket' ?

by Brass Monkey Mon 30 Nov 2009, 19:34

Well, watching the matches (shock horror - that's what some of us do! Outlandish, grandiose and ostentatious I know) he didn't bowl badly but he didn't bowl brilliantly and then got injured. Then he was coming back from injury.

by LeFromage Mon 30 Nov 2009, 19:51

He looked a little out of sorts all tour - but I've no doubt he's a quality bowler who would walk into England's team.

Though still tainted by his association with Essex.

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