Re: There are too many ordinary teams in test cricket

by Henry Sun 21 Mar 2010, 02:33

JGK wrote:
Henry wrote:The gap between India, South Africa, Australia, England and Sri Lanka compared with Pakistan, the Windies, New Zealand and Bangladesh is the widest it's ever been. Out of 9 test nations, 4 of them are completely uncompetetive against the top 5.

Time for a 2 tier test system, with one up and one down at the end of each year.

About two months ago you were saying Pakistan had the best pace attack in world cricket.

They may still do. It counts for nothing however when they have the shittest batting lineup in world cricket.

by taipan Sun 21 Mar 2010, 16:25

Zat wrote:Which is why there needs to be 5 Test series mandated between the top teams.

Yeah Zat, I would love to see a 5 test Aus/SA series but you know the problems there.

SA/Eng was supposed to be five but somewhere there was a stuff up.

by horace Sun 21 Mar 2010, 22:47

Zat wrote:Cricket goes in cycles, teams are stronger at some times, and weaker at others.

The biggest problem in cricket is the mismatches.

The rankings system needs to be applied in some way to minimise the number of mismatches.

Here's n off-the-cuff suggestion that might work.

Keep the FTP in place, but bring in some rules as to the length of series between sides, with the length of the next series between two teams to be decided on the rankings 12-14 months in advance (instead of up to 6 years.)

Teams within the top 4 should always play 5 or 6 Test series against each other.

Teams within 2 rankings spots of their oppposition should play 3 or 4 Tests ina series.

Teams further apart than that should be limited to one-off Tests or two-Test series.

ODIs - no more than the number of Test in the accompanying series.

No more than 5 matches in standalone series.

t20s - one or two per series as per current arrangements.

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Sounds sensible to me...therefore ljh will never back it

by Zat Mon 22 Mar 2010, 07:00

taipan wrote:
Zat wrote:Which is why there needs to be 5 Test series mandated between the top teams.

Yeah Zat, I would love to see a 5 test Aus/SA series but you know the problems there.

Test cricket needs to go where the crowds are. It looks shit played in an empty stadium.

by PeterCS Mon 22 Mar 2010, 13:53

Then you have the descent into T20.

by taipan Mon 22 Mar 2010, 18:17

Zat wrote:
taipan wrote:
Zat wrote:Which is why there needs to be 5 Test series mandated between the top teams.

Yeah Zat, I would love to see a 5 test Aus/SA series but you know the problems there.
Test cricket needs to go where the crowds are. It looks shit played in an empty stadium.

So that's India stuffed then.

by lardbucket Wed 11 May 2016, 08:59

Henry wrote:The gap between India, South Africa, Australia, England and Sri Lanka compared with Pakistan, the Windies, New Zealand and Bangladesh is the widest it's ever been. Out of 9 test nations, 4 of them are completely uncompetetive against the top 5.

Time for a 2 tier test system, with one up and one down at the end of each year.

Since you made this post, Henry, what changes have occurred, in your opinion?

I'd contend that Australia, India, England, and NZ (in no particular order) now form the 'top' four, with South Africa amazingly slip/sliding out of this group towards the bottom group and Pakistan rising to take their place; leaving WI, Sri Lanka, and the Bangles drowning in the bilges.

by taipan Wed 11 May 2016, 09:09

lardbucket wrote:
Henry wrote:The gap between India, South Africa, Australia, England and Sri Lanka compared with Pakistan, the Windies, New Zealand and Bangladesh is the widest it's ever been. Out of 9 test nations, 4 of them are completely uncompetetive against the top 5.

Time for a 2 tier test system, with one up and one down at the end of each year.

Since you made this post, Henry, what changes have occurred, in your opinion?

I'd contend that Australia, India, England, and NZ (in no particular order) now form the 'top' four, with South Africa amazingly slip/sliding out of this group towards the bottom group and Pakistan rising to take their place; leaving WI, Sri Lanka, and the Bangles drowning in the bilges.

Nothing amazing about it. I forecast it some time ago.

by lardbucket Wed 11 May 2016, 09:21

I had you on ignore.

by taipan Wed 11 May 2016, 09:25

Nice one tac.

by Henry Wed 11 May 2016, 09:54

lardbucket wrote:
Henry wrote:The gap between India, South Africa, Australia, England and Sri Lanka compared with Pakistan, the Windies, New Zealand and Bangladesh is the widest it's ever been. Out of 9 test nations, 4 of them are completely uncompetetive against the top 5.

Time for a 2 tier test system, with one up and one down at the end of each year.

Since you made this post, Henry, what changes have occurred, in your opinion?

I'd contend that Australia, India, England, and NZ (in no particular order) now form the 'top' four, with South Africa amazingly slip/sliding out of this group towards the bottom group and Pakistan rising to take their place; leaving WI, Sri Lanka, and the Bangles drowning in the bilges.

South Africa are still a good team. They still have AB, Amla, de Kock, Steyn, Rabada, and Morne. In all likelihood they should still beat NZ......

by lardbucket Wed 11 May 2016, 09:59

They look great on paper but their performances have slipped. I am not sure whether they still belong in the top 4-5 or whether they have dropped to be the leading team of the bottom 4-5. NZ seem more consistent at present and at this very moment SA would really struggle to beat England, India, or Australia.

Do you still see them as a top 3 team?

by PeterCS Wed 11 May 2016, 16:12

They'll be all right.

They may even get another dose of the Mace if Aus falter.

And unless Warney beats them to it.

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