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Post by Zat Thu 20 May 2010, 23:00

Cricinfo's made it look like they have heaps of coverage, but the first three links at the moment all head here.

It is possible, maybe even likely, that Pakistan players didn't throw the match for financial game, but did so because they were royally pissed off with certain members of the leadership.

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Post by doremi Thu 20 May 2010, 23:05

Or simply because they're Pakistan.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 20 May 2010, 23:14

i like Doremi's reason
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Post by Gary 111 Thu 20 May 2010, 23:16

I think it was a choke not a chuck. You tend to throw games when you are well established and can afford to slacken off here and there. Pakistan had had a rotten tour and this was their one chance to salvage some pride against vastly superior opponants. They just panicked and had a sh!t captain in my opinion.

I reckon spot betting fixing would be a lot more likely these days than match fixing. Much harder to detect and easier for a player to do without harming his career. Much harder to prove too.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 20 May 2010, 23:28

its complete bull$hit that the accusations are made PURELY based on the way they played and not NOT on any other evidence(like a telephone conversationb/t players and bookie)

Despite a history of match fixing in the country no one ever questions SA's choke jobs e.g no one has ever cynically questioned Donald and Zulu's boneheaded play(s) in the 99 semi YET when Pakistan choke its people INSIDE who start coming up with these accusations.
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Post by tac Thu 20 May 2010, 23:50

Indeed . . . how you could even rely on Pakistan to throw a game . . they are so crap they would probably end up winning by accident . .
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Post by JGK Fri 21 May 2010, 00:51

Did Ricky Ponting throw the 2005 and 2009 Ashes?

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Post by Zat Fri 21 May 2010, 01:00

No, Ponting's just an inept captain.

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Post by horace Fri 21 May 2010, 01:08

without other evidence there is nothing to suggest a fix....they bowled poorly and panicked in the field and then when batting a second time...

has anyone suggested the Poms fixed the adelaide test or the banindians the Sydney test?
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Post by tac Fri 21 May 2010, 02:05

horace wrote:without other evidence there is nothing to suggest a fix....they bowled poorly and panicked in the field and then when batting a second time...

has anyone suggested the Poms fixed the adelaide test or the banindians the Sydney test?

The bannies suggested the umpires fixed the sydney test . . . but mostly they were drowned out by the whirring of the charter plane's engines warming up . . .
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Post by Henry Fri 21 May 2010, 03:34

It's been common knowledge for about 4 years now that Akmal is an awful keeper. He just f*cked up. Again. And again.....
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Post by skully Fri 21 May 2010, 03:50

Trev's got it right.

PMSL. The Paksters implode and it's instantly a match-fixing investigation. All I can say is the Paksters must've mastered the art of deliberately nicking to the keeper and slips (4 catches to Haddit in that innings and one to gully).

And who can forget Haddit's brill leg side catch to get rid of Tuna Bum after Butt F@rt got away to a flier in chasing down our lowly target of 176. It didn't look like the openers were trying to throw it. That's when things started to unravel - 3-51 and the nerves were starting to jangle in the Pakster dressing room.
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Post by Bradman Fri 21 May 2010, 04:01

Some good points made here. In the end it would be hard for any opposition to guarantee any result against Australia whilst Captain Stupid Head was in charge.
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Post by SG Fri 21 May 2010, 04:06

IMO Kamran isn't a competent enough WK to fix a game. He'll anyway drop catches, miss stumpings/run outs. Why pay him to do what he is already adept at doing?

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Post by skully Fri 21 May 2010, 04:10

Indeed SG.

In any event, IDGAF if the Paksters did chuck it. If they did, they added to some wonderful theatre. That final day - from the Hussey-Siddle partnership to the Pakster implosion was just rivetting Teev.

And I coulda been there but politely declined a JGK invite (due to the fact I was 400 kms away up the coast and wasn't gonna make the trip with us 8 down and only 70 in front at the end of Day 3).

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Post by SG Fri 21 May 2010, 04:12

Afridi lambasting his own team mates,

Accusing few of his team menbers of lack of concentration while fielding, Twenty20 skipper Shahid Afridi said the Pakistan side gave away some of matches during their disastrous tour of Australia.

Following the match-fixing allegations of national coaches in the leaked video footage of a PCB's hearing on Pakistan's tour of Australia, the recent name to be featured in another video was the Pakistan T20 captain.

Afridi blasted few of the Pakistan players, who he feels are good with bat but while fielding they concentrate on other things like signing of autographs, talking to girls, etc.

''As far as the fielding is concerned, we do very well in the practice sessions but we have a few players who perform well with the bat and then do not concentrate while fielding. They stand near the boundary, sign autographs and talk to girls. I have my eye on a few such players.

''If you watch all the matches we have played recently, we have not been beaten in the matches, we have given away those matches. I think the reason is that we are not mentally strong. We had decided in our heads that we cannot beat Australia even before the match had started,'' the videpo shows Afridi as saying.

However, the flamboyant all-rounder denied to have personally known any such player involved in matchfixing.

''I have heard from others that such things exist but I do not know of any such player myself.'' Afridi has also blamed coach Intikhab Alam for demoralising the team and told the committee that time should be given to the captain to allow them to settle down and let them have a longer tenure.

''I told our coach Intikhab Alam very clearly to tell me well in advance if I were to captain the team in the ODIs against Australia. But I was still made the captain only 40 minutes before the match,'' the 29-year-old said.

''Even as I prepared to go for the toss, undue pressure was put on me to win the toss. And I was told we will will the match only if we win the toss.

''I told Alam, he should not demoralise the players. I am sure, comments like those can be avoided.

''Also, the selection committee needs to give the captain of the team a longer run. Whoever is made captain should be allowed a stint for at least a year,'' he added.

The leaked videos of the PCB's hearing on the national team tour Down Under has ignited a fresh controversy in Pakistan cricket, which has already facing tough times over the years with issues like security, mis-management, player's conduct on field among others.

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Post by Henry Fri 21 May 2010, 04:17

''Even as I prepared to go for the toss, undue pressure was put on me to win the toss. And I was told we will will the match only if we win the toss."


LOL. Pakistani cricket is funny.
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Post by doremi Fri 21 May 2010, 06:01

Wow. That is stunningly funny.
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Post by skully Fri 21 May 2010, 06:06

So the cheat Afridi denies knowing anyone involved in match-fixing. That IS Gold. pmsl
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Post by Fred Nerk Fri 21 May 2010, 12:06

Has Afridi, er, bitten off more than he can chew again.....

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Post by PeterCS Fri 21 May 2010, 12:24

Old news.
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Post by skully Fri 21 May 2010, 13:18

Old shoes?
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Post by SG Mon 24 May 2010, 04:45

Kamran Akmal threatens to sue former coaches

I think Akmal has a point here. You just can't accuse people of match fixing without proof. Its a very serious slur on any cricketer. And if you happen to be the team coach at that time, the allegation becomes all the more damaging.

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Post by embee Mon 24 May 2010, 05:19

It's far better to be regarded as incompetent than a cheat
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Post by horace Mon 24 May 2010, 05:28

agree with embee...akmal looked genuinely distressed when he gloved those chances...given the incompetence prolly saved Paris' career the latter should have taken him out for a curry
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