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Post by DJ_Smerk Sun 12 Sep 2010, 23:54

Never quite sure about the odds of teams in sport - JGK will surely know more - but here are the odds for the pool stages in the RWC 2011 in New Zealand.

Rugby World Cup Pool A Outrights

Winner
New Zealand (1/5), France (9/2), Tonga (150), Canada (200), Any Other (250), Japan (250)

Rugby World Cup Pool B Outrights

Winner
England (8/13), Argentina (7/2), Scotland (4), Any Other (150), Romania (150), Georgia (250)

Rugby World Cup Pool C Outrights

Winner
Australia (1/3), Ireland (11/4), Italy (50), Any Other (200), USA (250), Russia (1000)

Rugby World Cup Pool D Outrights

Winner
South Africa (2/7), Wales (10/3), Any Other (40), Samoa (50), Fiji (66), Namibia (500)


10/3 - I have a sinking feeling that we won't make it out of the group stage. With the Saffers and two bogey sides combined with our lack of greatness in this competition, it won't be pretty. The only champagne we'll be tasting is sparkling wine in economy on the Quantas flight home.

I doubt these odds will change much, even if we win the Six Nations, the Autumn Internationals and our summer tour.

We just never step it up against the big three.

How are Japan coming on in the World Rugby? Have they made leaps and bounds since the days of 100-0 drubbings?


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Post by JKLever Mon 13 Sep 2010, 00:00

As long as the Frenchies don't win.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 13 Sep 2010, 00:28

DJ_Smerk wrote:Never quite sure about the odds of teams in sport - JGK will surely know more - but here are the odds for the pool stages in the RWC 2011 in New Zealand.

Rugby World Cup Pool A Outrights

Winner
New Zealand (1/5), France (9/2), Tonga (150), Canada (200), Any Other (250), Japan (250)

Rugby World Cup Pool B Outrights

Winner
England (8/13), Argentina (7/2), Scotland (4), Any Other (150), Romania (150), Georgia (250)

Rugby World Cup Pool C Outrights

Winner
Australia (1/3), Ireland (11/4), Italy (50), Any Other (200), USA (250), Russia (1000)

Rugby World Cup Pool D Outrights

Winner
South Africa (2/7), Wales (10/3), Any Other (40), Samoa (50), Fiji (66), Namibia (500)


10/3 - I have a sinking feeling that we won't make it out of the group stage. With the Saffers and two bogey sides combined with our lack of greatness in this competition, it won't be pretty. The only champagne we'll be tasting is sparkling wine in economy on the Quantas flight home.

I doubt these odds will change much, even if we win the Six Nations, the Autumn Internationals and our summer tour.

We just never step it up against the big three.

How are Japan coming on in the World Rugby? Have they made leaps and bounds since the days of 100-0 drubbings?

I don't mind France, the Argies & Ireland from that lot.
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Post by DJ_Smerk Mon 13 Sep 2010, 00:30

France has a knack of overturning the All Blacks.

It'll be typical WC New Zealand if they fall short again.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 13 Sep 2010, 00:43

DJ_Smerk wrote:France has a knack of overturning the All Blacks.

It'll be typical WC New Zealand if they fall short again.

Of course it's likely that the winner of that game will win the pool. One team listed at 1/5 presents a tasty opportunity (don't tell anyone from south asia)
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Post by JKLever Sat 13 Nov 2010, 16:26

Didn't know where to post but wanted to shout 'take that you strinos!' in a really loud voice.

TAKE THAT YOU STRINOS !!!!
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Post by beamer Sat 13 Nov 2010, 17:31

What a performance that was, we haven't seen anything like that from England since before the World Cup win... it wasn't that the Wobblies were that bad, other than missing a few kicks early on that could have settled them into a lead, just that England were inspired from 1-15, or 1-22 even if they used them all!

Youngs was inspired and ran the game, Ashton looks like the cutting-edge winger we haven't had for years, the second row forwards were immense and Flood at last looked an international number 10, as well as kicking his goals near faultlessly. Quick ball and ambition, which we haven't seen since we had the likes of Dawson, Greenwood and Robinson in the side. The team was going nowhere earlier this year, now we need to build on this, beat the Yarps and carry the form into next year, then the team might peak for the World Cup like we have done in recent times.

On a cricketing theme I noticed there was a Kurtley and a Courtney on the field, though on different sides on this occasion!

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Post by taipan Sat 13 Nov 2010, 19:28

beamer wrote:then the team might peak for the World Cup like we have done in recent times.


One WC win IIRC correctly?
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Post by beamer Sat 13 Nov 2010, 20:14

Yeah, the same number as the All Blacks who piss on every other team for the three years in between then find a way to mess it up when it matters. England have generally been awful for the last 7 years, other than putting that run together to somehow make the final in 2007 and being one marginal line call away from retaining it...

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Post by JKLever Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:50

And one more win that the All Blacks in the fully professional era, which is hella funny.
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Post by beamer Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:44

They're at home next year as well, so even more pressure and more likely they will f**k it up... first half-decent side they play probably.

With England's new charcoal grey away kit, maybe they should be known as the "Almost Blacks"...

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Nov 2010, 03:40

taipan wrote:
beamer wrote:then the team might peak for the World Cup like we have done in recent times.


One WC win IIRC correctly?
Most successful team of the last decade in world cups. I think that counts as peaking at recent times.

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Post by Henry Sun 14 Nov 2010, 03:52

I don't know why England don't try and play like that all the time. They threw the ball around and ran with it in Sydney five months ago as well and got a victory against the Aussies, and again here.
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Post by DJ_Smerk Sun 14 Nov 2010, 12:28

I'm happy with the marginal improvement against the Saffers.


A good match.
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Post by Zat Sun 14 Nov 2010, 21:12

vilkrang wrote:
taipan wrote:
beamer wrote:then the team might peak for the World Cup like we have done in recent times.


One WC win IIRC correctly?
Most successful team of the last decade in world cups. I think that counts as peaking at recent times.
So, how much is a moral victory worth in Rugby Union?

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Post by DJ_Smerk Sun 14 Nov 2010, 23:02

Worth the weight in gold to me, Zat.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 15 Nov 2010, 03:20

England have again belted Aus at the tackle and the ruck. They absolutely dominated & would have beaten any of the sanzar nations on that performance.

Great stuff with the RWC in the offing.
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Post by Henry Thu 18 Nov 2010, 15:17

I see Aus have dropped Matt Giteau. About time. One of the most overrated players in world rugby.
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Post by Guest Thu 18 Nov 2010, 15:44

Zat wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
taipan wrote:
beamer wrote:then the team might peak for the World Cup like we have done in recent times.


One WC win IIRC correctly?
Most successful team of the last decade in world cups. I think that counts as peaking at recent times.
So, how much is a moral victory worth in Rugby Union?
I prefer actual victories myself:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7030422.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/3228728.stm

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Post by Mick Sawyer Fri 19 Nov 2010, 06:05

Great message sent out to the young Wallabies with the selections for the weekend Test against Italy.

Benn Robinson (who made Andrew Sheridan squeal like a girl 12 months ago) is benched and replaced by the even younger James Slipper at loosehead.

The welcome inevitable has finally happened & Deans has also benched his most selected player, Matt Giteau. Some have suggested that the selection of Barnes in is place is to cover the defensive shortcomings of Cooper. I don't agree. Anthony Faingaa would have been picked for that role. Dumping Giteau gives Deans the chance to play a first and second fiveeighth style of combination that he favoured at Canterbury.
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Post by Henry Fri 19 Nov 2010, 06:13

Hard to figure out the Wallabies. Brilliant, woeful, tactically astute, and clueless. Often in the one half of rugby.
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Post by taipan Fri 19 Nov 2010, 06:15

Henry wrote:Hard to figure out the Wallabies. Brilliant, woeful, tactically astute, and clueless. Often in the one half of rugby.

The rugby version of Pakistan but without the fixing???
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Post by Guest Sat 20 Nov 2010, 16:50

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/scottish/9207058.stm

How the mighty have fallen...

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Post by beamer Sat 20 Nov 2010, 19:45

The Yarpsters are at their lowest point since the time in 2002 when they decided the only way to beat England was to resort to all-out thuggery, got a red card early on and got smashed by 50 points. We'll take a similar approach from them next week...

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Post by taipan Sat 20 Nov 2010, 20:25

yeah, England the home of rugby. football, cricket and maybe curling
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