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Post by horace Tue 01 Dec 2020, 10:31

the wacky PM needs to clear out corrupt elements eg Taylor.
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Post by embee Wed 02 Dec 2020, 00:20

Dean Nalder quits wozzie politics

he controls the faction with the second most numbers in wozzie lib politics
he didnt run for leader against kirkup because the faction with most numbers was backing him

sooks off whinging about behind the scenes factional machinations

he is a third generation wozzie state pollie and which he think legitimizes his born to rule mentality

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Post by Big Dog Wed 02 Dec 2020, 01:10

Looks like Tassie is the only state where the premier is still the popular choice Cool
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Post by horace Wed 02 Dec 2020, 03:08

embee wrote:Dean Nalder quits wozzie politics

he controls the faction with the second most numbers in wozzie lib politics
he didnt run for leader against kirkup because the faction with most numbers was backing him

sooks off whinging about behind the scenes factional machinations

he is a third generation wozzie state pollie and which he think legitimizes his born to rule mentality  


3 generations is Court and Downer territory.

It is not just the Tories. The Beiges have their share. Beasley and Crean jnrs were both diabolical born to be rulers. Both attended seppo courses for right wing shitheads. My family had a long antipathy to Frank and Slymon.

I am no prude but Slymon was gross. I recall we were at a dinner party in the late 70s. Slymon was there with his mistress (no-one cared).

He was placed next to my then Ms H. After repelling his under the table touch ups several times she gave him a squirrel grip not missing a beat while she was telling a joke. We laughed at the joke but as she pointed out later he squeaked.

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Post by embee Wed 02 Dec 2020, 06:32

the brother of my mate who stole over 22 million bucks has now been charged with money laundering

ouch

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Post by horace Fri 12 Mar 2021, 03:21

Wozzie State election is on. Seems the brownie Oppo leader has conceded he will lose his seat.

embee may be the only voter opposed to the McClown landslide.

I am sympathetic to embee's view - if I have it right.
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Post by embee Fri 12 Mar 2021, 03:51

The McClown govt is awful

The opposition is worse

My old school mate is the oppo treasurer and he delivered one hell of a shambolic press conference yesterday on the costing of policies and promises

McClown has used wozzie xenophobia and racism to turn his hard borders bullshit into a landslide win

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Post by skully Fri 12 Mar 2021, 04:59

embee wrote:McClown has used wozzie xenophobia and racism to turn his hard borders bullshit into a landslide win

An old Forum mate is crowing about it on another platform (yes, it's Sheety). The Pinko coterie has been having a field day on said platform.

I have to admit that the overt Pinko arrogance of McClown (and Palashit in Qld) has been just a tad galling.
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Post by JGK Fri 12 Mar 2021, 15:17

Unlike the corrupt born to rule rapist protecting arrogance of the other mob.

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Post by horace Fri 12 Mar 2021, 19:28

JGK wrote:Unlike the corrupt born to rule rapist protecting arrogance of the other mob.

oh yeah

* The 'big swinging dicks' faction that several Fed Lib women MPs referred to (inc Julie Bishop)

* Yesterday's story of the Fed Police not passing on all the Porter documents they held to the NSW cops. And oh yep, the Fed Police are responsible to Minister Spudhead, himself a millionaire Qld ex copper who was mentored by the same circles investigated in the Fitzgerald Inquiry.

* Led by a bloke who is a happy clapper in a messianic cabal,adept at keeping women in their place.

* Porter himself as A-G presides over the Star Chamber prosecution of the E Timor whistle blower and his lawyer and is responsible for the malevolent prosecutions of Centrelink clients.




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Post by skully Fri 12 Mar 2021, 22:03

JGK wrote:Unlike the corrupt born to rule rapist protecting arrogance of the other mob.

No comment on the glossing over of Bill Shorten's rape allegations?? Typo Pinko hypocrisy.
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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 00:21

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:Unlike the corrupt born to rule rapist protecting arrogance of the other mob.

No comment on the glossing over of Bill Shorten's rape allegations?? Typo Pinko hypocrisy.

That at least was subject to investigation. No-one here despises Shorten more than I.

Head of Macquarie Bank has shopped Porter. The A-G claimed he barely knew the woman and the first he knew of the allegations was late in 2020. The MB CEO said he discussed the allegations with the dead woman and Porter around 30 years ago.

Porter may be innocent. Who knows? What is clear is he has lied about it all for a long time.

I want to know whether Dutton or a safe appointee derailed sending evidence to the Dubber wallopers.

I see Sen. Reynolds has settled the defamation charges against her. Apparently* the brave young woman has donated the money to women's services in ACT.

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Post by JGK Sat 13 Mar 2021, 03:07

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:Unlike the corrupt born to rule rapist protecting arrogance of the other mob.

No comment on the glossing over of Bill Shorten's rape allegations?? Typo Pinko hypocrisy.

Fully investigated by the police including actually talking to the complainant and Shorten. Plus Shorten wasn’t a Minister of the Crown at the time of the investigation.

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Post by lardbucket Sat 13 Mar 2021, 05:54

JGK

“fully investigated by police” ... same as Porter.

“not a minister of the Crown” ... only because of the ballot box result; plus he HAD been and was / still is in line to be a minister again.

So, the same. Perhaps any star chamber inquiry into what the 17 year old Porter is ‘more likely than not’ to have done, with no evidence, lobbied for by the ALP and their bedfellows should also look into what the young Shorten is more likely than not to have done; the evidence from Shorten’s accuser surely should not be dismissed out of hand in such an inquiry?

There hasn’t been so much hypocrisy on view since the same folk that howled Gillard’s innocence of her boyfriend’s transgressions went apeshit at Gladys B’s ‘obvious corruption’ because of her personal connection to a Wagga-based buffoon.

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Post by JGK Sat 13 Mar 2021, 08:13

Not the same at all. The police didn’t investigate the Porter case at all. They did t talk to him or anyone else other than the complainant. They’ve closed the case because without her evidence there was no prospect of a conviction.


Porter is absolutely the beneficiary of the presumption of innocence. There is no prospect of him being criminally convicted. The only damage he has suffered from the public is reputation and there are clear legal avenues for him to pursue in that respect.

As for Gladys and Gillard - then one who was the Premier of a state at the time of the allegations (and still is) wasnt investigated but was in the same party as that which instigated an entire Royal Commission to look into Gillards affairs from before she entered politics. Gillard never once hesitated to front up to journos or the RC whereas Gladys and Porter hide like cowards.

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Post by JGK Sat 13 Mar 2021, 08:15

For what it’s worth, I couldn’t care less if there was no investigation into Porter. The public will make up its own mind and hopefully it will signal the end of the most corrupt Federal government in our history.

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Post by lardbucket Sat 13 Mar 2021, 08:35

I agree that the public will ‘make up their own minds‘ on Porter, variably swayed by the current smear campaigners. As the public did with Shorten, where the accuser has basically been branded a liar by the same mob.

I can’t think of a current federal politician on either side that I admire. There seems to a surfeit of Clive Palmers. Eddie Obeids, Michaela Cashes, Tony Bourkes and Peter Duttons ...

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Post by JGK Sat 13 Mar 2021, 09:01

Yes, the potentially good ones get crushed by the system and only the smarmy political gits like Morrison and Rudd ever get anywhere.

It's really quite depressing.


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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 09:22

JGK wrote:Yes, the potentially good ones get crushed by the system and only the smarmy political gits like Morrison and Rudd ever get anywhere.

It's really quite depressing.


Yep.

Had forgotten all that shyte tossed at Gillard because of her rubbish taste in BFs. I loathed Gillard for reasons unrelated to her BF. Prem Sad Glad is another. I doubt she has taken a penny via her BF.

Lardy - I do know some fine people involved in politics. I expect they are in the majority. People like Porter, Reynolds, Dutton, Downer (devil incarnate imo if I was religious), Shorten, Burke, Rudd are not on my list.



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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 10:22

WA polls suggest the Nats are likely to be the major Oppo Party in the Lower House.

ScoMo's fiddling on the Palmer case did not help the Wozzie Libs. Palmer may be the most detested public/corporate/political figure in Oz at the moment.

It is remarkable this bloke is not in stir.
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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 10:46

Have started watching bloody Sky as the ABC is not covering. Looks like Oppo leader Zac Fkup will lose his seat.
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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 16:47

Of the 59 seats in the Wozzaria lower house it looks like it will be
52-ALP
4-Nats
3-Libs
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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 20:43

horace wrote:Of the 59 seats in the Wozzaria lower house it looks like it will be
52-ALP
4-Nats
3-Libs

Overly optimistic for the Brownies. The revised figures now have it at -

53 - ALP
4 - Nats
2 - Libs

The Nats and Libs do not get on well, so a Coalition may not happen.

Apparently* the ALP has a chance of gaining a majority in the WA Upper House.

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Post by Blackadder Sat 13 Mar 2021, 21:47

So the WA libs look like being reduced to minor party status. Shocked

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Post by horace Sat 13 Mar 2021, 22:21

Blackadder wrote:So the WA libs look like being reduced to minor party status. Shocked

lol. I wonder how many reps are needed to qualify for minor party status. The election for the new Lib Leader will be conducted by secret ballot - what?
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