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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (IX)
Pinkos to further push class warfare in May budget
"FINANCE Minister Penny Wong has declined to rule out axing tax concessions for superannuation in the May budget.
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Sacked cabinet minister Simon Crean has warned that raising taxes on super would trash Labor's legacy in setting up compulsory superannuation.
"You can't be taxing people's surpluses built up in a super fund to pay for our surplus," he told The Financial Review.
Shadow assistant treasurer Mathias Cormann said the government should heed the advice of Mr Crean and stop the class warfare attack on hardworking people saving for retirement."
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This idiot Govt wants people on pensions. They want everyone to be "battlers". What a farkin useless bunch of Financial nongs.
So, Ponts, JGK, Mick and horrie, enjoy having your Super contributions being taxed at normal marginal rates, and possibly the earnings on your Super, as well. Nicely played, Pinkos. Fark the nation's bank balance so badly that you have to raid personal Super accounts. What wonderful spin will JGK's boyfriend Ross Gittins put on this?
I also heard on the 12.00 noon Nooz that the Pinkos will be putting to the next sitting of Parliament a request to raise the Borrowing ceiling to $350,000 billion, as Foreign debt soars towards $300 billion. When the qunts came to power the borrowing ceiling sat at $75 billion, but we had no foreign debt so didn't go near that ceiling.
Pinkos - couldn't run a chook raffle and make a profit. They'd give away all the tickets and eat the prize.
"FINANCE Minister Penny Wong has declined to rule out axing tax concessions for superannuation in the May budget.
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Sacked cabinet minister Simon Crean has warned that raising taxes on super would trash Labor's legacy in setting up compulsory superannuation.
"You can't be taxing people's surpluses built up in a super fund to pay for our surplus," he told The Financial Review.
Shadow assistant treasurer Mathias Cormann said the government should heed the advice of Mr Crean and stop the class warfare attack on hardworking people saving for retirement."
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This idiot Govt wants people on pensions. They want everyone to be "battlers". What a farkin useless bunch of Financial nongs.
So, Ponts, JGK, Mick and horrie, enjoy having your Super contributions being taxed at normal marginal rates, and possibly the earnings on your Super, as well. Nicely played, Pinkos. Fark the nation's bank balance so badly that you have to raid personal Super accounts. What wonderful spin will JGK's boyfriend Ross Gittins put on this?
I also heard on the 12.00 noon Nooz that the Pinkos will be putting to the next sitting of Parliament a request to raise the Borrowing ceiling to $350,000 billion, as Foreign debt soars towards $300 billion. When the qunts came to power the borrowing ceiling sat at $75 billion, but we had no foreign debt so didn't go near that ceiling.
Pinkos - couldn't run a chook raffle and make a profit. They'd give away all the tickets and eat the prize.
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And yet the rest of the world looks at our economy with envy.
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Seems Doug Cameron has no clue either
"LABOR Senator Doug Cameron opposed stripping former minister Ian Macdonald of his preselection during a heated meeting in 2006, which was also attended by senior cabinet minister Anthony Albanese, ICAC has heard.
Giving evidence at the Independent Commission Against Corruption today, Labor's NSW upper house leader Luke Foley said Mr Macdonald later secured a deal to remain in office until mid-2009, by which time he had become "an agent and operative of Eddie Obeid" - known in party circles as "Obeid's left testicle".
Mr Foley said in 2006 he formed the view that Mr Macdonald should be stripped of his preselection. That was before Mr Macdonald, the state's then minerals minister, took the decisions which are now being investigated by the ICAC.
"I'd received over a number of years a chorus of complaint from senior figures in the NSW Labor government regarding Mr Macdonald's conduct, regarding his actions," Mr Foley told the hearing in Sydney.
"I had formed the view that Mr Macdonald had abandoned Labor principles, had lost his moral compass and was not deserving of continued Labor preselection for parliament."
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Union cronyism knows no bounds, and is coming home to roost.
"LABOR Senator Doug Cameron opposed stripping former minister Ian Macdonald of his preselection during a heated meeting in 2006, which was also attended by senior cabinet minister Anthony Albanese, ICAC has heard.
Giving evidence at the Independent Commission Against Corruption today, Labor's NSW upper house leader Luke Foley said Mr Macdonald later secured a deal to remain in office until mid-2009, by which time he had become "an agent and operative of Eddie Obeid" - known in party circles as "Obeid's left testicle".
Mr Foley said in 2006 he formed the view that Mr Macdonald should be stripped of his preselection. That was before Mr Macdonald, the state's then minerals minister, took the decisions which are now being investigated by the ICAC.
"I'd received over a number of years a chorus of complaint from senior figures in the NSW Labor government regarding Mr Macdonald's conduct, regarding his actions," Mr Foley told the hearing in Sydney.
"I had formed the view that Mr Macdonald had abandoned Labor principles, had lost his moral compass and was not deserving of continued Labor preselection for parliament."
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Union cronyism knows no bounds, and is coming home to roost.
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Yes Ross.JGK wrote:And yet the rest of the world looks at our economy with envy.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (IX)
Gillard, McGowan feud does ALP no favours
Political editor Joe Spagnolo
MARK McGowan and Julia Gillard have to resolve their differences - and quick.
It is an absolute ludicrous situation that the leader of the ALP in Western Australia and the federal Labor leader avoid each other like the plague.
Gillard has reportedly only ever had a very brief in person chat to McGowan since he became the leader of the WA Labor Party in 2012.
Lately, McGowan takes off on holidays when Gillard visits Perth.
Last time she visited Perth, McGowan jumped on a plane to Bali.
This week, Gillard is scheduled to be in Perth and McGowan is again on holidays.
And let's not forget that McGowan told Gillard not to visit WA during the election campaign - which he lost by a country mile.
Gillard's Federal Labor Party holds just three seats in WA - Brand, Fremantle and Perth.
Brand was always going to be a challenge for Labor to hold, but the downfall of former Perth MLA John Hyde at the state election means the federal representative, Stephen Smith, should be very nervous.
How can Gillard possibly expect voters to give her and her party the tick of approval at the September 14 poll when the leader of the ALP in Western Australia, McGowan, clearly doesn't rate her or her government.
Perception is everything in politics.
And the feud between McGowan and Gillard does no favours for Labor, either here in the west or in Canberra.
Political editor Joe Spagnolo
MARK McGowan and Julia Gillard have to resolve their differences - and quick.
It is an absolute ludicrous situation that the leader of the ALP in Western Australia and the federal Labor leader avoid each other like the plague.
Gillard has reportedly only ever had a very brief in person chat to McGowan since he became the leader of the WA Labor Party in 2012.
Lately, McGowan takes off on holidays when Gillard visits Perth.
Last time she visited Perth, McGowan jumped on a plane to Bali.
This week, Gillard is scheduled to be in Perth and McGowan is again on holidays.
And let's not forget that McGowan told Gillard not to visit WA during the election campaign - which he lost by a country mile.
Gillard's Federal Labor Party holds just three seats in WA - Brand, Fremantle and Perth.
Brand was always going to be a challenge for Labor to hold, but the downfall of former Perth MLA John Hyde at the state election means the federal representative, Stephen Smith, should be very nervous.
How can Gillard possibly expect voters to give her and her party the tick of approval at the September 14 poll when the leader of the ALP in Western Australia, McGowan, clearly doesn't rate her or her government.
Perception is everything in politics.
And the feud between McGowan and Gillard does no favours for Labor, either here in the west or in Canberra.
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The Vulture is now nothing but a laughing stock.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (IX)
BOF saves the fed pinkos by not appointing McClelland
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embee wrote:BOF saves the fed pinkos by not appointing McClelland
BOF probably worked out that McClelland studied law at UNSW.
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I like the boofa.... a much better premier than I thought he would be
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (IX)
Investment bankers are grouse:
Investment banker wants carbon tax to stay
March 27, 2013
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Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's plan to roll back the carbon tax will put the budget's bottom line under pressure, an investment banker says.
MH Carnegie & Co founder Mark Carnegie said there was immense confusion about what Mr Abbott was going to do if he became prime minister, especially with the carbon tax.
"He is going to turn around and roll back the carbon tax at a time when it is clear that the revenues of the budget are under immense pressure," Mr Carnegie told a business forum in Sydney on Wednesday.
"One of the least painful ways to raise a significant amount of money is with a carbon tax, forget the scare mongering."
Mr Carnegie said energy giants ExxonMobil and Shell and BP had called for the carbon tax to stay as it would provide planning certainty.
"The real question is, we know what Tony Abbott said he's going to do but what is he really going to do," Mr Carnegie said.
"That's the big question we've got to work out.
"He is the person least committed to free market economics of the viable political leaders, of which there are four in Australia."
Mr Carnegie was referring to Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull.
He also said Mr Abbott could be at least a two-term prime minister, given the work Labor would have to do after its expected resounding defeat on September 14, as the opinion polls suggested.
"The election has already been fought and lost by the Labor Party and the experiment of minority government in Australia has been a comprehensive failure," Mr Carnegie said.
Mr Carnegie was speaking at an Australian British Chamber of Commerce function.
Investment banker wants carbon tax to stay
March 27, 2013
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Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's plan to roll back the carbon tax will put the budget's bottom line under pressure, an investment banker says.
MH Carnegie & Co founder Mark Carnegie said there was immense confusion about what Mr Abbott was going to do if he became prime minister, especially with the carbon tax.
"He is going to turn around and roll back the carbon tax at a time when it is clear that the revenues of the budget are under immense pressure," Mr Carnegie told a business forum in Sydney on Wednesday.
"One of the least painful ways to raise a significant amount of money is with a carbon tax, forget the scare mongering."
Mr Carnegie said energy giants ExxonMobil and Shell and BP had called for the carbon tax to stay as it would provide planning certainty.
"The real question is, we know what Tony Abbott said he's going to do but what is he really going to do," Mr Carnegie said.
"That's the big question we've got to work out.
"He is the person least committed to free market economics of the viable political leaders, of which there are four in Australia."
Mr Carnegie was referring to Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull.
He also said Mr Abbott could be at least a two-term prime minister, given the work Labor would have to do after its expected resounding defeat on September 14, as the opinion polls suggested.
"The election has already been fought and lost by the Labor Party and the experiment of minority government in Australia has been a comprehensive failure," Mr Carnegie said.
Mr Carnegie was speaking at an Australian British Chamber of Commerce function.
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"Put the budget bottom line under pressure". PMSL. That would be the same bottom line that has foreign debt about to hit $300 Billion and a current account deficit of probably $40 Billion.
He sounds as credible as Ross Gittins.
He sounds as credible as Ross Gittins.
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MrK now has posters of him on his bedroom walls, along side those of Ross Gittins.
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So, anyone heard any credible rumours about the threshold for "wealthy" i.e. the annual salary at which the Pinkos' new Superannuation tax increases will kick in? Yeah, that's the same increases that wise Pinko heads like Crean and Ferguson are imploring the Vulture, the Goose and the Mugruncher not to impose.
What a fraud of a Govt. Mismanage the country's finances so badly that you have steal from Superannuation accounts. Is this Cyprus? Sept 14 can't come quickly enough.
What a fraud of a Govt. Mismanage the country's finances so badly that you have steal from Superannuation accounts. Is this Cyprus? Sept 14 can't come quickly enough.
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Link
Meanwhile the welfare seekers keep flooding in. The Govt has already blown their budget for the financial year with three months still to go.
This statement says it all on the utter incompitence of this government:
Meanwhile the welfare seekers keep flooding in. The Govt has already blown their budget for the financial year with three months still to go.
This statement says it all on the utter incompitence of this government:
"Meanwhile, Prime Minister Julia Gillard blamed the Coalition for the surge because the government had been unable to win support for Migration Act changes which would have allowed its people swap deal with Malaysia to proceed.Labor MP Graham Perrett claimed the Coalition was "complicit in these tragedies."
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PMSL at the Vulture. 17,000 last year (yes, zero in LJH's last 2 years), and they'll probably break that record this year. Bald-face lies like that just keep making the Primary vote sink faster than an asylum seeker boat.
And this won't help her cause
"Prime Minister Julia Gillard says the government has yet to decide (hmmm, like Super taxes, that means "will implement") whether asylum-seeking families will be released into the community, as yet another boat, with 147 on board, has been intercepted near Darwin.
The number of people arriving by boat so far this year is now over 3300, more than double the arrivals in the same period of 2012. Wednesday's boat also carried the most passengers since October last year.
Federal Labor is said to be considering extending the community release program to families."
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Community release extended to families?? Wow, wait for that news to reach the people smugglers. Just how farkin stoopid is this lame duck Govt???
And a dose of the truth from the horse's mouth
"AN alleged people-smuggling kingpin awaiting extradition from Indonesia says Australia could stop the boats if it employed tactics used during John Howard's time as prime minister.
Indonesian authorities have confirmed Sayed Abbas is set to face an extradition hearing next month after Australian officials handed over the necessary paperwork late last week.
Abbas is suspected of being one of the most active people-smugglers to operate out of Indonesia in recent years and is believed to have remained in business even while he was incarcerated in Salemba prison in Jakarta.
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He also offered some advice to Australian authorities.
"The Australian government can stop (the boats) like before when John Howard was there," he told AAP.
"If they were more serious, they could stop. It's very easy."
It was towards the end of that year (2001), he said, that many of the people-smugglers operating in Indonesia shut up shop.
"Maybe Australia, with such strong power can stop it like John Howard did. Like in 2001, just shut the channel.
"Not like now when Kevin Rudd opened it again," he said."
And this won't help her cause
"Prime Minister Julia Gillard says the government has yet to decide (hmmm, like Super taxes, that means "will implement") whether asylum-seeking families will be released into the community, as yet another boat, with 147 on board, has been intercepted near Darwin.
The number of people arriving by boat so far this year is now over 3300, more than double the arrivals in the same period of 2012. Wednesday's boat also carried the most passengers since October last year.
Federal Labor is said to be considering extending the community release program to families."
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Community release extended to families?? Wow, wait for that news to reach the people smugglers. Just how farkin stoopid is this lame duck Govt???
And a dose of the truth from the horse's mouth
"AN alleged people-smuggling kingpin awaiting extradition from Indonesia says Australia could stop the boats if it employed tactics used during John Howard's time as prime minister.
Indonesian authorities have confirmed Sayed Abbas is set to face an extradition hearing next month after Australian officials handed over the necessary paperwork late last week.
Abbas is suspected of being one of the most active people-smugglers to operate out of Indonesia in recent years and is believed to have remained in business even while he was incarcerated in Salemba prison in Jakarta.
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He also offered some advice to Australian authorities.
"The Australian government can stop (the boats) like before when John Howard was there," he told AAP.
"If they were more serious, they could stop. It's very easy."
It was towards the end of that year (2001), he said, that many of the people-smugglers operating in Indonesia shut up shop.
"Maybe Australia, with such strong power can stop it like John Howard did. Like in 2001, just shut the channel.
"Not like now when Kevin Rudd opened it again," he said."
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Pmsl @ skully quoting potential people smugglers on trial as justication for the coalitions policies which aren't very different to the ALP's.
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[b]Big Dog wrote:So...has anyone heard of Mark Carnegie?
Err. Well yes. If you read the business section of the papers he is there quite often.
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What will Abbott do to stop the boats?
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sink them...to resounding cheers from Queensland, BD and and Skully
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It would solve the problem.
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what if they contain someone who can deliver a doosra?
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G.Wood wrote:what if they contain someone who can deliver a doosra?
That's the price you pay to secure our borders.
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skully wrote:So, anyone heard any credible rumours about the threshold for "wealthy" i.e. the annual salary at which the Pinkos' new Superannuation tax increases will kick in? Yeah, that's the same increases that wise Pinko heads like Crean and Ferguson are imploring the Vulture, the Goose and the Mugruncher not to impose.
What a fraud of a Govt. Mismanage the country's finances so badly that you have steal from Superannuation accounts. Is this Cyprus? Sept 14 can't come quickly enough.
Talk at the moment is to lift the tax on earnings to 20% from 15%.
Would pay for Gonski all by itself.
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Actually, I was quoting a The Australian news article, who deemed it fit to print the guy's opinion. What better opinion than that of a people smuggler king pin, who knows the business way, way, way better than the bleeding heart Pinkos?JGK wrote:Pmsl @ skully quoting potential people smugglers on trial as justication for the coalitions policies which aren't very different to the ALP's.
You Pinkos crack me up. One minute you're quoting rubbery and highly selective financial figures to attempt to snow people** that the Goose has done a good job (what's that new foreign borrowing ceiling going up to? $350 Billion?), and bullshitting on about a single banker's opinion on the carbon tax, then the next you are ignoring black and white facts. LJH in power = NO BOAT PEOPLE. Pinkos in power = 17,000 boat people a year and soaring.
** I have news for you - people won't be snowed. At least 20 Pinko MPs will lose their jobs in Sept, hopefully closer to 30.
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