Aus Federal Politics thread (III)

[taipan]

Gillard calls for an enquiry into News Ltd here.

The online comments on the Australian goes into a hate filled over drive.


Fark I say bring it on. And now we will see what Rupert has been up to down under.

He is guilty of nothing except trusting people who trusted the wrong people.

[Big Dog]

Do you even know the meaning of the word "lie"?

Pinkos STILL in denial.

[JGK]

Tories STILL ignoring the question.

[Big Dog]

JULIA Gillard ... said Australians were disturbed by the revelations of telephone hacking by British journalists

...well theres another lie for a start. Australians could'nt give a stuff. She's just hoping that an enquiry will knobble the bad press she's been getting in this country.
...desparation politics.

[Big Dog]

Tories STILL ignoring the question.

What question?

[JGK]

Do you even know the meaning of the word "lie"?

Pinkos STILL in denial.

For BD...

[Paul Keating]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/in-depth/rupert-murdochs-age-becomes-any-issue-among-news-corp-shareholders/story-fn9eci82-1226098472032

Nothing to hide?

[Big Dog]

Do you even know the meaning of the word "lie"?

Pinkos STILL in denial.

For BD...

If you mean the question of lying, i think embee summed up what 99.9% of the country know to be true. It seems you are amongst the .01% who can't see it.

[JGK]

I only asked if you Tories knew what the word "lie" meant.

It really isn't any more tricky than that.

Still waiting for a response.

[Paul Keating]

I am still waiting on a response if invading Iraq (with the benefit of hindsight) was a mistake.

[Big Dog]

I only asked if you Tories knew what the word "lie" meant.

It really isn't any more tricky than that.

Still waiting for a response.

I already know what your response is going to be & Howard did'nt make any last ditched untruths to secure a close election....unlike Juliar. Her lie was calculated & devisive & has been perpetuated by her denials.

[Paul Keating]

To secure a close election.

So voters who were going to vote for Abbott (who had no carbon tax plans) decided to switch sides to Gillard (because she also had no carbon tax plans)

You couldn't make it up. Seriously.

[JGK]

Yet still you won't answer the question.

[JGK]

I only asked if you Tories knew what the word "lie" meant.

It really isn't any more tricky than that.

Still waiting for a response.

I already know what your response is going to be & Howard did'nt make any last ditched untruths to secure a close election....unlike Juliar. Her lie was calculated & devisive & has been perpetuated by her denials.

TONY JONES: Tony Abbott on another matter, have you met Archbishop Pell during the election campaign?

TONY ABBOTT: Not that I can recall.

TONY JONES: Not that you can recall, because we believe that you've had at least one meeting with him quite recently?

You don't recall that?

TONY ABBOTT: Well, when?

Where?

TONY JONES: At the presbytery in Sydney.

TONY ABBOTT: Ah, actually now that you do mention it, I did met with Cardinal Pell.

So what?

Why shouldn't I meet with Cardinal Pell?

TONY JONES: Why couldn't you recall meeting him, I think, 10 days ago?

TONY ABBOTT: Look, whenever it was, so what?

Why shouldn't I meet Cardinal Pell.

Cardinal Pell is a fine man.

He made a very good statement the other day about the Labor Party's policy, why shouldn't I meet with him?

TONY JONES: Well, the reason we're asking about this, obviously, because your behind-the-scenes activities in the '98 election were quite renowned and I'm wondering is there any possibility that in your discussions with Cardinal Pell which you couldn't recall a moment ago - in those discussions did you actually bring up the issue of private schools?

TONY ABBOTT: Nup.

TONY JONES: Not at all?

TONY ABBOTT: Nup.

TONY JONES: What issues were discussed?

TONY ABBOTT: Well, Tony, I may well have been going to confession to Cardinal Pell, I may well have been seeking pastoral counselling from Cardinal Pell.

What's so sinister about that?

Cardinal Pell is one of the greatest churchmen that Australia has seen.

I am a very imperfect Catholic.

Why shouldn't I go and seek counsel?

Why shouldn't I go and trespass on the time occasionally of someone like Cardinal Pell.

If you spent more time with Cardinal Pell, your life might be more interesting.

TONY JONES: I haven't spent any time at all with Cardinal Pell as it turns out, but that's beside the point.

You're a political operative and the question is not whether he gave you counselling but whether you gave him counselling because only a short time after your visit out came this letter signed by two Archbishops condemning Labor's education policy?

TONY ABBOTT: So you think that I put words into the mouth not only of Cardinal Pell but of Archbishop Jensen?

TONY JONES: I'm simply asking whether that was a matter of your conversations which a moment ago you didn't recall?

TONY ABBOTT: That's a bizarre suggestion.

[Paul Keating]

http://www.awu.net.au/109589607626152_5.html?H%7C19%7C109589607626152%7C1650569191203

[JGK]

http://www.awu.net.au/109589607626152_5.html?H%7C19%7C109589607626152%7C1650569191203

Maybe not the most "fair and balanced" website on the issue...

[Paul Keating]

But it is true, is it not?

[Paul Keating]

Also I love how it is okay for Australia (if they were under Howard) to lead the world on climate change. But now we are under Gillard, we cannot lead the world on climate change.

[Big Dog]

But it is true, is it not?

The only thing missing are the Clown shoes & party poppers.

[Paul Keating]

Still waiting.

[embee]

I am still waiting on a response if invading Iraq (with the benefit of hindsight) was a mistake.

Ponts

The question of invading Iraq is not a simple right/wrong.
Saddam was a bad man ...removing him was good
Unfortunately cutting the head off the snake hasn't killed it.
There are still many problems to solve re Iraq...and many more that will be created if the CotW pull out their forces
Libya was in a similar position to Iraq ...but Godaffy bent over and gave up his weapons ....and now they have a full scale civil war anyway

[skully]

Seems I've missed some fun. Oh well.

[Big Dog]

Seems I've missed some fun. Oh well.

Welcome back Skulls. I hope things are on the up.

[bodyline]

Do you even know the meaning of the word "lie"?

Yes

[Bradman]

Howard lied to win an election. She lied to save one. Though the jury's still out as far as I am concerned on whether or not a carbon tax would've helped or hindered her.

In either case you can say the subsequent backflips helped and will help the economy.

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