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Post by embee Tue 03 Sep 2013, 04:27

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Post by skully Tue 03 Sep 2013, 04:44

Smirk nails it

"Kevin Rudd's problem in this campaign is that he is much better known by the public than he was when they voted him into office.

Rudd has never understood what it means to govern. He has never understood that to accomplish something, a minister or a prime minister must design it, think of the risks and take measures to prevent them, assemble resources, map out a plan for implementation, follow through on it, and deliver results. He believes that governing mostly consists of making grand statements.

The highlight of Rudd's career will be the apology to the stolen generation. It was a gesture, a declaration. After it was given, no one's life improved. It wasn't about that. It was about making the giver and the receivers feel better."


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Sums up The Hollow Man to a T.
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Post by skully Tue 03 Sep 2013, 04:46

Meanwhile the L-NP is into 1.02 and Pinks have blown to 14.00.
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Post by embee Tue 03 Sep 2013, 05:13

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Post by horace Tue 03 Sep 2013, 14:38

Vote 2morrow in Dublin..all rather dismal
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Post by JGK Tue 03 Sep 2013, 19:08

horace wrote:Vote 2morrow in Dublin..all rather dismal
Aye. They didn't even have a sausage sizzle at Australia House in London.

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Post by skully Wed 04 Sep 2013, 06:58

Mercifully, the ads stop tonight at midnight.

3 more sleeps. threaten 
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Post by skully Wed 04 Sep 2013, 09:46

That's some holiday you've had, MrK. Did your HR department demand you burn off some hols?
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Post by JGK Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:40

Long service leave.

Still have 2 weeks left.

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Post by skully Wed 04 Sep 2013, 11:45

Grouse.
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Post by skully Thu 05 Sep 2013, 03:31

Lucky MrK is OS - I may have asked him if he was in the Ryde area yesty

"LABOR'S star recruit for the seat of Bennelong has been drawn into a dirty tricks scandal after the circulation of a flyer that describes Tony Abbott as a "sleazy moral coward".

Jason Yat-Sen Li, hand-picked by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, last night denied any involvement with the pamphlet despite claims it was dropped into residents' letterboxes by an ALP supporter.

Rosie Dekker, a resident of Smith St, Ryde for 17 years, said yesterday she was disgusted by the material delivered by a man wearing a shirt supporting Jason Yat-Sen Li.
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The pamphlet reads in part: "Vote no to the Abbott maggot".

"Protect your wife and daughters - you have the power. Do you want a sleazy moral coward to have control over your daughter's body and dictate what she can and can't do with your own body? Remember this "good" family man abandoned what he thought was his own baby son."

"Like Barry O'Farrell, Tony Abbott will rape your sons and daughters' public school of billions of funds but protect Catholic paedophile schools with extra funding."


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Maybe Ponts was moonlighting out of his Electorate? Wink

I note a similar smear campaign in Chris Bowen's seat against ex-cop Ray King has backfired dramatically with Bowen now a good chance to lose his seat. Cool
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Post by skully Thu 05 Sep 2013, 03:35

2 days and this thread can be merged with the Aus Politics thread - huzzah!! cheers

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Post by Paul Keating Thu 05 Sep 2013, 06:00

Pointless, Skully.

In Penrith at the last election the Liberal candidate was involved in handing out fliers about how filthy Muslims were. It was proven that the Lib candidate was involved and he and admitted to it too . It actually lost them the seat.

You make it out like it is a disease that affects the ALP only.
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Post by JGK Thu 05 Sep 2013, 07:09

It's almost at the stage where you'd suspect some sort of double agent like activity. Ie put on a t shirt supporting the other side, drop fliers saying outrageous things about your side, get a friendly resident to say "I saw someone in an other side t shirt do it", play moral outrage card and win sympathy votes.

The candidate is a Sydney Grammar boy. He's a bi weird from what I understand but I wouldn't have thought this sort of idiocy is his thing.

Bowen too.

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Post by skully Thu 05 Sep 2013, 08:13

JGK wrote:The candidate is a Sydney Grammar boy. He's a bi weird from what I understand but I wouldn't have thought this sort of idiocy is his thing.
Is this a classic SGDT?

And in Bowen's seat, Rudd was personally involved in the smear against King, calling for Mr. King to answer so-called  allegations (that he was a mate of Roger Rogerson, and that he had to front ICAC, both which proved massive beat ups) publically. Mr. King was too dignified to get involved in the grubby American Pinko tactics. The Ugly Pinko persona has been a huge failure in this campaign.

The Pinks first shot themselves in the foot by employing the dickhead's dickhead, Scot John McTernan, then they shot themselves in the mouth by employing Yanks to "help" Krudd. What a pack of roobs. Laughing
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Post by Hass Thu 05 Sep 2013, 09:14

Well, well, well,

Look what policy the Coalition has sneakily released at the last minute

Coalition resurrects internet filter

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Post by JGK Thu 05 Sep 2013, 10:38

Hass wrote:Well, well, well,

Look what policy the Coalition has sneakily released at the last minute

Coalition resurrects internet filter

George Pell already calling the shots.

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Post by Merlin Thu 05 Sep 2013, 11:21

skully wrote:

"LABOR'S star recruit for the seat of Bennelong has been drawn into a dirty tricks scandal after the circulation of a flyer that describes Tony Abbott as a "sleazy moral coward".

Jason Yat-Sen Li, hand-picked by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, last night denied any involvement with the pamphlet despite claims it was dropped into residents' letterboxes by an ALP supporter.

Rosie Dekker, a resident of Smith St, Ryde for 17 years, said yesterday she was disgusted by the material delivered by a man wearing a shirt supporting Jason Yat-Sen Li.
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The pamphlet reads in part: "Vote no to the Abbott maggot".

"Protect your wife and daughters - you have the power. Do you want a sleazy moral coward to have control over your daughter's body and dictate what she can and can't do with your own body? Remember this "good" family man abandoned what he thought was his own baby son."

"Like Barry O'Farrell, Tony Abbott will rape your sons and daughters' public school of billions of funds but protect Catholic paedophile schools with extra funding
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Wow!
Gloves off, eh what?!

I can't somehow see Cocky Cameroon saying anything similar about Mingie Millie'sband . . . nor even about the C**t Cleggie. . . much as he might loathe the pair.

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Post by Hass Thu 05 Sep 2013, 12:09

JGK wrote:
Hass wrote:Well, well, well,

Look what policy the Coalition has sneakily released at the last minute

Coalition resurrects internet filter
George Pell already calling the shots.
That didn't last long.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-05/no-internet-filter-says-turnbull/4939156

Turnbull has sensibly put the kybosh on the policy.

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Post by JGK Thu 05 Sep 2013, 23:13

And the nation is about to hand these clowns power.

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Post by skully Fri 06 Sep 2013, 00:27

Oi Fromberg. Please merge this with the Aus Politics thread. aye-aye 
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Post by G.Wood Fri 06 Sep 2013, 00:30

More c0ck ups with the NBN.

I wonder if they will finish it before it becomes obsolete
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Post by skully Fri 06 Sep 2013, 00:35

G.Wood wrote:More c0ck ups with the NBN.  

I wonder if they will finish it before it becomes obsolete
Conroy's parting gift to Krudd?
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Post by embee Fri 06 Sep 2013, 04:07

Veteran psephologist Malcolm Mackerras has predicted a landslide victory for the coalition in which Kevin Rudd will be turfed out of his own seat as well as the Lodge.
Mackerras told Fairfax Media's Breaking Politics that he expects the Coalition to win 94 lower house seats, with Labor winning 54 and crossbenchers Andrew Wilkie and Bob Katter retaining their respective seats of Denison and Kennedy.
Psephologist Malcolm Mackerras tips the PM will lose his seat - but would have held on if he had not returned to the leadership.
Psephologist Malcolm Mackerras tips the PM will lose his seat - but would have held on if he had not returned to the leadership.
The visiting fellow at the Australian Catholic University tips Kevin Rudd will become the third prime minister in Australian history to lose his seat as well as a general election.
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The previous two were Stanley Bruce in 1929 and John Howard who lost his seat of Bennelong in 2007.
Mackerras said Rudd would likely have retained the seat if he had not returned to the Labor leadership. "I just think that he has become a discredited prime minister," he said.
"The electors of Griffith will say to themselves 'this man is now discredited, he's taking his government to a heavy defeat. If he wins the seat he'll create a byelection or alternatively he'll stay around like a bad smell, hated by all his colleagues for the next three years'."
Mackerras said Griffith constituents would remember how former Queensland premier Anna Bligh promised before the 2012 election that she would serve a full term in her seat of South Brisbane – which is within the boundaries of Griffith – before announcing her retirement on the day after her government was defeated.
"I think it will motivate them simply to say 'this man is finished, why don't we euthanase him politically, in the same way as the Bennelong electors euthanased John Howard."
Mackerras expects Labor to be reduced to just four seats in Queensland – Rankin, Oxley, Capricornia and Blair – and just one in Tasmania; the seat of Franklin, held by Julie Collins.
Mackerras predicts Labor will retain its seats in Western Australia and South Australia, but lose Corangamite, Deakin and La Trobe in Victoria.
In New South Wales, he expects Treasurer Chris Bowen to hold on in McMahon, but Assistant Treasurer David Bradbury to be defeated in Lindsay.
He expects Labor's Cath Bowtell to defeat Green MP Adam Bandt in Melbourne, and Liberal Sophie Mirabella to withstand a challenge from independent Cathy McGowan in Indi, but says both contests could go either way.
In the Senate, he expects Labor to have 27 seats, with 10 Green Senators, independent Nick Xenophon, Katter's Australian Party member and musician James Blundell and Democratic Labor Party Senator John Madigan sharing the balance of power.
Under this scenario, the coalition would need the votes of Xenophon, Blundell and Madigan to pass legislation, which he said would deliver enormous power to Xenophon in particular.
"He will have extraordinary power ... because he will be the additional Senator that Abbott needs to repeal any legislation that Abbott wants to repeal if everybody else plays as expected."
In 2010, Mackerras successfully predicted 75 of 76 Senators, failing to predict only the victory of Madigan.
The new Senate would take effect from July 2014.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/election-expert-malcolm-mackerras-predicts-kevin-rudd-to-be-booted-coalition-to-romp-home-20130906-2t8y3.html#ixzz2e4uJXBrK

Hope he's right about Rudd and Bradbury ...and wrong about Mirabella
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 06 Sep 2013, 05:02

I am tipping 85 to the Libs

60 to the ALP

Early congratualations to the Libs.
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