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Post by horace Tue 19 Nov 2013, 21:26

so BD...do you concede the possibility that some asylum seekers are genuine?....aside from white saffies, poms, zimbos etc
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Post by Big Dog Tue 19 Nov 2013, 21:56

horace wrote:so BD...do you concede the possibility that some asylum seekers are genuine?....aside from white saffies, poms, zimbos etc
Of course there are genuine asylum seekers but just because they get tagged as asulum seeker doesnt mean we should automatically accept their bona fidi's
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Post by horace Tue 19 Nov 2013, 21:58

all the checks are done on the bona fides....noice to see you agree the possibility of genuine asylum seekers!!
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Post by horace Tue 19 Nov 2013, 21:59

I reckon that anyone who wants to come here is clearly in dire circumstances
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Post by JGK Wed 20 Nov 2013, 06:38

Good to see the Tories have everything under control:

Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono says he is suspending cooperation with Australia on people smuggling in the wake of recent spying revelations, the AAP World Wire reports.

SBY also said that he would continue to demand an official explanation from Australia about revelations that Australian spies targeted his mobile phone in 2009.

"I am still waiting," Dr Yudhoyono said in an address to Indonesia.
The president added he would send a letter of demand to the Australian government, requesting an official apology and an explanation from Prime Minister Tony Abbott.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/the-pulse-live/politics-live-november-20-2013-20131120-2xu38.html#ixzz2lAJANet0

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Post by embee Wed 20 Nov 2013, 06:41

Just another pinko mess to clean up ...
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Post by Paul Keating Wed 20 Nov 2013, 07:15

Whatever MB

You know both sides spy. Hence why the Coalition aren't making a big deal about Labor doing it. FFS the Coalition are probably spying on them now.

The ALP was just unlucky in getting caught out via the leaks from Snowden.
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Post by Big Dog Wed 20 Nov 2013, 08:22

horace wrote:all the checks are done on the bona fides....noice to see you agree the possibility of genuine asylum seekers!!
As i see it most of these people are claiming Asylum simply because they come from a conflict zone. Clearly these people are not genuine asylum seekers but are immigrants cashing in on an obviously outdated UN convention.
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Post by JGK Wed 20 Nov 2013, 14:12

Tories - all class:

Liberal Party pollster Mark Textor published a succession of abusive comments, with one likening Indonesian Foreign Affairs Minister Marty Natalegawa to a ''1970s Pilipino [sic] porn star''.

In one tweet, since deleted, Mr Textor attacked the Indonesian Foreign Minister.

''Apology demanded from Australia by a bloke who looks like a 1970s Pilipino [sic] porn star and has ethics to match,'' he tweeted along with the hash-tag ''#Fairfax demands appeasement''.

In another, the Liberal insider asked ''What sort of head of state communicates with a head of a neighbouring government by twitter FFS? SBY''. FFS is shorthand for ''for f---'s sake''.

In a further tweet, Mr Textor said the phone-tapping incident revealed by whistleblower Edward Snowden was in 2009 and said ''Maybe SBY uses some sort of weird-ass ancient calendar''.

But he also appeared to justifying the phone tapping of the Indonesian President and his wife as well as eight other senior figures with the tweet: ''Last time I looked no Indonesians were ever bombed in Australia.'' He published pictures of the Bali bombers under the tweet ''Nothing to see here.''


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/abusive-tweets-from-top-liberal-party-pollster-20131120-2xvwb.html#ixzz2lC9I1zWB

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Post by G.Wood Wed 20 Nov 2013, 20:55

Aye, it's good to see someone cut throught the crap and speak the truth. Communicating via twitter certainly demanded a "FFS", it should have happened sooner.
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Post by horace Wed 20 Nov 2013, 22:53

RD is clearly looking forward to encountering a platoon of cranky Javanese soldiers...prolly preferable to his previous servicing of bronnyb
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Post by Bradman Thu 21 Nov 2013, 02:29

Paul Keating wrote:Whatever MB

You know both sides spy. Hence why the Coalition aren't making a big deal about Labor doing it. FFS the Coalition are probably spying on them now.

The ALP security services were just unlucky in getting caught out via the leaks from Snowden.
I'm pretty sure these things are for post action approval. We've got declared ASIS officers wprking in a couple of Asian posts. They weren't there just to train the locals. You could probably say that all embassy officials are de facto spies anyway.

Bill should've played the "Team AustraLIA" line earlier. I'd be more worried what they're up to domestically.
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Post by horace Thu 21 Nov 2013, 02:37

it seems the spooks have been spooking on 4 members of fed parliament....presumably wilkie and a few greens....they never spook on the right in this country
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Post by embee Thu 21 Nov 2013, 02:39

Probably Arbib after wikileaks exposed him as telling the US info
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Post by horace Thu 21 Nov 2013, 02:41

you may be right....personally I think Arbib is a danger to civilisation as we know it...

spooks are a strange and rather inept crew....even when I was a young horrorhead they were easy spot
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Post by Bradman Thu 21 Nov 2013, 02:47

Ever get your hands on your ASIO file? And were you disappointed?

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