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Post by taipan Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:23 am

The definitive answer.
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:33 am

Are you off your swede?
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Post by taipan Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:34 am

Read the link?
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Post by PeterCS Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:41 am

Karti studied for forty years at the Ignatius Loyola College of Casuistry.
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:34 am

Karti? Are you off your swede?
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Post by G.Wood Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:06 am

Taipan's japes and high jinks obscured the intent of the Karticle. It was merely presenting the case that Haddin had a better Ashes record than Gilly not that he was greater than him.

By Karti standards, not the silliest proposition.
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Post by JGK Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:24 am

Is Karti a chick?

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Post by G.Wood Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:35 am

It would explain not being able to admit she was wrong
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Post by Bradman Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:37 am

i said something similar after the series just gone. It can be looked at without being immediately dismissed as crazy.
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Post by skully Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:39 am

Any Karticle, and that is all of them, that includes the phrase "and I would argue", is dubious at best.

Still, Haddit DOES have a good Ashes record.
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Post by Bradman Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:43 am

Actually Gilchrist's record overall has to be looked at in the context of more often than not batting with zero pressure.
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Post by skully Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:45 am

Sorry, any inference that Gilly was not our greatest ever keeper-bat is, IMHO, bogus.
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Post by Bradman Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:48 am

How many keeper-bats had we have?
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Post by skully Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:50 am

Enough for Gilly to be considered easily the best of 'em.

And I can think of plenty of games where Gilly's batting either saved us, or took us from a fair to invincible position. The guy was a genius.
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Post by G.Wood Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:54 am

skully wrote:Enough for Gilly to be considered easily the best of 'em.

And I can think of plenty of games where Gilly's batting either saved us, or took us from a fair to invincible position. The guy was a genius.

His 3rd ever innings sealed that
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Post by Bradman Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:54 am

So can I, well not plenty. The Ashes stuff seems interesting. Maybe the author can go as far as to expand the stats over their respective careers.

Though I suspect he did that and thus the Ashes only comparison.
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Post by skully Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:15 am

Agree. On a career basis there is no competition for the top Aus keeper-batsman. But if only Ashes are considered then there's not much between Gilly and Haddit.

Your point about "easy runs" for Gilly is perhaps more valid in the Ashes. Can't think of too many times Gilly saved us in Ashes contests. Can think of plenty where he took a reasonable position to unassailable. Haddit, on the other hand, has a great record of playing a major role in resurrecting Ashes innings.
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Post by Neil D Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:35 am

Gilly is not the best Aussie keeper-batsman ever. He is just THE best keeper-batsman ever.

He changed Test cricket forever. End of conversation.
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Post by horace Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:09 am

G.Wood wrote:It would explain not being able to admit she was wrong

Karti or Taips?
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Post by JGK Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:28 am

Karti's argument seems to be Haddin batted under pressure, Gilly didn't therefore Haddin better.

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Post by skully Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:28 am

Neil D wrote:Gilly is not the best Aussie keeper-batsman ever.  He is just THE best keeper-batsman ever.

He changed Test cricket forever.  End of conversation.

Absolutely no argument from me, ND.
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Post by horace Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:32 am

aye...he also looks like he could make a good commentator....the BBL commentators have been a revelation...both punter and gilly have been more than useful...
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Post by Bradman Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:34 am

Kjr just needs the laugh and he could develop into the tv equivalent of skull.
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Post by horace Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:40 am

phurt...skull is very funny
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Post by Bradman Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:43 am

I said could. He is funny in a way in that the other commentators seem to be taking the piss out of him and he's clueless as to it.

Their butt, if you will.
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