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Post by Red Sat 01 Feb 2014, 02:44

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-01/clarke-lays-down-challenge-to-proteas-bowlers/5232384

"I'm a little bit biased, but in my opinion this Australian attack is the best in the world," Clarke said.

"What I've seen from the Australian fast bowlers over a long period of time, I feel we have the best attack in the world."


He's also expecting sporty wickets which make it hard for batsmen but perhaps later seasons etc. they might not be as fiery as the ones in November on our last tour.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Feb 2014, 03:22

He's fully entitled to his opinion.
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Post by JGK Sat 01 Feb 2014, 03:24

And it's not like he says he's being objective...


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Post by taipan Sat 01 Feb 2014, 03:27

Clarke also said he didn't know what the result between SA and India was. He is either trying to play mind Ames extremely weakly or he is a total dickhead.
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Post by Fred Nerk Sat 01 Feb 2014, 08:31

taipan wrote:Clarke also said he didn't know what the result between SA and India was. He is either trying to play mind Ames extremely weakly or he is a total dickhead.

Anybody half-familiar with Taips' body of work would see that it's not impossible to be both.

(WTF Leslie Ethelbert George has to do with it, Lord knows....)

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Post by G.Wood Sat 01 Feb 2014, 11:24

JGK wrote:And it's not like he says he's being objective...


and it seems to have got to at least one Saffie
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Post by lardbucket Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:16

It's a strange comment from Clarke seeing as the attack has chopped and changed almost on a Test by Test basis up until Ashes 2013-14.

We may have a good talent pool to choose from right now, given freedom from injury, but the 'argument' really is about the relative strength of the top 3-4 bowlers from either side, and I can't see how anyone could argue our best 3 are within cooee of Steyn, Philander, and Morkel.

I'm hoping for mental weakness from Morkel, a significant career interruption for Philander, and an attack of the Brett Lees for Steyn. Without at least two of these, and quickly, I think our top order is screwed.

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Post by JGK Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:26

Still, if Midge keeps his whitewash form anything can happen.

FWIW - I don't think Morkel would make the Aust side.

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Post by lardbucket Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:28

Morkel v Siddle ... ??

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Post by skully Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:35

The Ostrich tends to go to water if things aren't running for him, whereas Cot keeps grinding away.

And on MrK's point, Midge's form is crucial for a competitive effort by Aus in this series.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:43

JGK wrote:Still, if Midge keeps his whitewash form anything can happen.

FWIW - I don't think Morkel would make the Aust side.

I'm not sure.

A better (more cogent) point would be that Lyon would improve the current South African team.

But that still doesn't really substantiate Clarke's case, does it. He didn't say "best balanced".


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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:44

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Post by JGK Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:48

lardbucket wrote:Morkel v Siddle ... ??


In the current Aust side, yes to Siddle. Morkel has one of the easiest fast bowling jobs in world cricket and still averages over 30.

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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:51

And to consider "the bigger picture" ...

Did MC make any claims about the Oz batting lineup being "the best in the world"?

Or was the pumping of his bowler's collective tyres, in part, a diversionary tactic? Laughing
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Feb 2014, 23:56

On recent form, best composite XI?

Perhaps

Smith (G)
Petersen
Amla
De Villiers
Clarke
Haddin (if De Kock is excluded on ethnic grounds)
Philander
Johnson
Steyn
Harris
Lyon / Morkel (depending on track)

Or is that a bit Saffie-heavy, and does Warner get in for Alviro?

(Not sure you need the stalwart Siddle if the rest in their various ways have smashed the Martian opposition to pieces.)
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Post by skully Sun 02 Feb 2014, 00:12

PeterCS wrote:...and does Warner get in for Alviro?

Er, no.
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Post by PeterCS Sun 02 Feb 2014, 00:16

Of course Faf would press a case for inclusion too, while he is still warm with the bat and quicksilver in the field. You'd have to drop a quick though (or a frontline bowler of some sort), which might be difficult.

I think Lyon would have to be in that team.

Every good team deserves twirler.
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Post by Red Sun 02 Feb 2014, 01:18

JGK wrote:
lardbucket wrote:Morkel v Siddle ... ??


In the current Aust side, yes to Siddle.  Morkel has one of the easiest fast bowling jobs in world cricket and still averages over 30.

Actually Morkel averages under thirty. Not necessarily arguing his case over the solid and reliable Siddle but maybe you're understating his case by saying he has the easiest job bowling after Steyn and Philander. In the first test against India for e.g. he was probably their best bowler but didn't enjoy the spoils. Batsmen have repeatedly said that he is the most difficult of their batsmen to face but that doesn't always translate to wickets. Hussey for e.g. has said that Morkel is the bowler he least likes facing in their attack except when the conditions are conducive to movement when in his words Philander becomes " an absolute nightmare". Sometimes the stats don't tell the full picture. One of Morkel's problems seems to be a tendency to bowl too short and with his height he sometimes misses out on LBWs etc.
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Post by Red Sun 02 Feb 2014, 04:50

PeterCS wrote:On recent form, best composite XI?

Perhaps

Smith (G)
Petersen
Amla
De Villiers
Clarke
Haddin (if De Kock is excluded on ethnic grounds)
Philander
Johnson
Steyn
Harris
Lyon / Morkel (depending on track)

Or is that a bit Saffie-heavy, and does Warner get in for Alviro?

(Not sure you need the stalwart Siddle if the rest in their various ways have smashed the Martian opposition to pieces.)

Consensus seems to be that the selectors have not handled de Kock's probable entry in the smartest manner.
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Post by horace Mon 03 Feb 2014, 05:31

I thought Snorkel was selected for ethnic quota reasons
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Post by taipan Mon 03 Feb 2014, 06:34

horace wrote:I thought Snorkel was selected for ethnic quota reasons

NTR.
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Post by taipan Mon 03 Feb 2014, 06:38

embee wrote:DFTFT

Red is a troll?
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Post by Red Mon 03 Feb 2014, 07:39

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/mitchell-johnson-already-has-proteas-rattled-says-pat-cummins-20140202-31vg6.html

Cummins believes that Johnson already has the Proteas rattled.
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taipan wrote:
embee wrote:DFTFT

Red is a troll?

Hard to believe anyone is that stupid unintentionally ...
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