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England v West Indies, 2nd Test, Headingley, 25-29 August, 2017

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Post by skully Sun 20 Aug 2017, 09:12

Maybe I should've made the dates in the thread heading "25-27 Aug", such was the woefulness of the useless Ganjas in T1.

AC Malan to make a 100??
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Post by Basil Sun 20 Aug 2017, 09:24

There's usually a bit of life in the Headingley pitch, so if West Indies can get Gabriel fit, and play a spinner, their bowling unit might be more of a handful.

On the other hand, none of their top six would come within a bull's roar of a place in a county side - so another three day thrashing beckons.
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Post by beamer Sun 20 Aug 2017, 09:30

skully wrote:Maybe I should've made the dates in the thread heading "25-27 Aug", such was the woefulness of the useless Ganjas in T1.

AC Malan to make a 100??
Might get him Inter the Ashes squad...

We need one of the newcomers to go big here, I know it's like preparing for the marathon by jogging to the corner shop, but it will at least give them some belief that they belong. And if we have to spin the wheel again and throw a couple more batsmen straight in to go to Australia it's not a great prospect.

Anyway, this might go to the fifth day. More likely due to rain than any improvement in WI competitiveness though...

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Post by skully Sun 20 Aug 2017, 09:49

beamer wrote:
skully wrote:Maybe I should've made the dates in the thread heading "25-27 Aug", such was the woefulness of the useless Ganjas in T1.

AC Malan to make a 100??
Might get him Inter the Ashes squad...

We need one of the newcomers to go big here, I know it's like preparing for the marathon by jogging to the corner shop, but it will at least give them some belief that they belong. And if we have to spin the wheel again and throw a couple more batsmen straight in to go to Australia it's not a great prospect.

Anyway, this might go to the fifth day. More likely due to rain than any improvement in WI competitiveness though...

Boom-tish!!!
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Post by beamer Thu 24 Aug 2017, 22:33

Woakes to replace Toby LeRone in the England XI.

If we win this one will they give Jimmy a break I wonder?

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Post by Basil Fri 25 Aug 2017, 10:33

beamer wrote:Woakes to replace Toby LeRone in the England XI.

If we win this one will they give Jimmy a break I wonder?

Would you like to be the one to tell him?
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Post by Basil Fri 25 Aug 2017, 10:52

England win the toss and bat.

Windies change two bowlers. Not bothered about losing 19 wickets in a day presumably.
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Post by Basil Fri 25 Aug 2017, 12:15

Wanted: a new opener and number three for England.
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Post by beamer Fri 25 Aug 2017, 17:32

Basil wrote:Wanted: a new opener and number three for England.
The captain has to step up into one or other of those spots now, surely.

Number 5's up for grabs as well. The Australians won't be so forgiving when we're three or four down for f**k all every innings.

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Post by beamer Fri 25 Aug 2017, 17:36

Well, 258 would have near enough won by an innings at Edgbaston, but I'm not convinced it will be the same here. I'm backing WI for a first innings lead at least.

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Post by horace Fri 25 Aug 2017, 21:34

better effort
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Post by beamer Sat 26 Aug 2017, 11:38

Well, a couple of early wickets as we needed. Good catch from Root to get rid of Bob, will No offer any more resistance?

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Post by beamer Sat 26 Aug 2017, 11:44

Jimmy could make it to 500 today...

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Post by beamer Sat 26 Aug 2017, 14:58

No (along with Kraigggg) giving them genuine Hope here.

As usual, England heads appear to drop when things don't go their way. They could lose this Test today.

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Post by lardbucket Sat 26 Aug 2017, 15:02

Not so sure about 'no', perhaps 'glimmer'?

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Post by lardbucket Sat 26 Aug 2017, 15:33

Another hour of this and WI might get a first innings lead, perhaps even a decent one. I hope so for the sake of their future in Test cricket.

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Post by furriner Sat 26 Aug 2017, 16:47

^^ Just don't get JGK to support the Windies here.
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Post by beamer Sat 26 Aug 2017, 17:04

The typical complacent England performance, after three decent ones in a row it was overdue.

Chance of real embarrassment now with the series set to be level going to a decider at Lord's.

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Post by beamer Sat 26 Aug 2017, 18:26

Anyway, I was asking for it nicknaming him "No", even if he did average under 20 before this. Now it's West Indies Episode 2, A New Hope...

If we can keep the lead down to 100-150 there's still half a chance of setting them a testing target, but more likely we will just throw in the towel and lose by an innings.

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Post by horace Sat 26 Aug 2017, 20:52

beamer wrote:Anyway, I was asking for it nicknaming him "No", even if he did average under 20 before this. Now it's West Indies Episode 2, A New Hope...

If we can keep the lead down to 100-150 there's still half a chance of setting them a testing target, but more likely we will just throw in the towel and lose by an innings.

Nice one...made me smile, as did a promising WI effort.
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Post by lardbucket Sat 26 Aug 2017, 22:55

The Brathwaite-Hope union was West Indies' best partnership in England for over 30 years (Greenidge/Gomes at Lords v Gower's declaration in 1984), and Hope's innings is the Windies' highest in England-based Tests for a period almost as long (Lara 179 at The Oval in 1995).

Unashamedly I'm hoping that these two and the West Indian tail can add another 100 plus, perhaps even 200, though that is almost certainly too much to hope for. A win here, especially a good win, would restore the series to parity but more importantly give this struggling side some much-needed pride and self-belief after the absolute shellacking it received in T1.

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Post by lardbucket Sat 26 Aug 2017, 22:58

furriner wrote:^^ Just don't get JGK to support the Windies here.

Aye, just keep that Jonah in his box!

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Post by Red Sun 27 Aug 2017, 01:27

Really heartening to see this fight and promise from the Windies.
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Post by skully Sun 27 Aug 2017, 03:02

Welly well well. What a turnaround.

Stokes "saved" England and helped them make a mediocre total, then Brathwaite and Hope added 2-fitty.

Still, wrap up the tail and make 400, England are far from dead.
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Post by beamer Sun 27 Aug 2017, 10:24

skully wrote:Welly well well. What a turnaround.

Stokes "saved" England and helped them make a mediocre total, then Brathwaite and Hope added 2-fitty.

Still, wrap up the tail and make 400, England are far from dead.
I can't remember when England last fought their way back into a Test from a position like this though. I'm expecting WI to add another 100 and then roll England for 150, game over today.

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