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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 05 Dec 2019, 09:14

After enduring nearly a week of moronic projectile vomit from the Mensas of the SBM about the Warner effort, mostly along the lines of 'flat deck; crap bowling, dead rubber, lets see how he'd go against Marshall & Ambrose' etc etc blah blah, the penny dropped: couldn't most 300s be dismissed the same way? Def Hayden, def Taylor, both Lara's, Hutton, Simpson, Cowper, Rowe, arguably Clarke who at least went in at 2 for sod all soon to become 3 batting second) arguably Amla (the only one I saw 'live')....have there been any triples that break that mould?

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Post by Growler Thu 05 Dec 2019, 10:46

Gooch, Lords 1990 p'raps Fred ?

Flat deck - no matter how benign the surface may be, I don't think Lords can ever be considered a flat deck ... the slope will always make it slightly awkward for both batting and bowling. It's one reason why getting on the honours board is particularly special - many great players are not on them.

Crap bowling - whilst the other 4 weren't up to much, and India were always dreck away from home, their attack did have Kapil Dev in his prime, so I'd say no to that one.

Dead rubber - unless the first test is dead, again no.

Lets see how he gets on against Marshall & Ambrose etc - he spent most of his career facing that lot, and their equivalents everywhere else. An average of just shy of 45 and a HS of 154no (against WIndies) speaks for itself.


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Post by Growler Thu 05 Dec 2019, 10:46

Damn - double post, sorry
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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 05 Dec 2019, 11:12

I thought of Gooch. But those stats expose how vacuous the M & A whinge is better than anybody's - he did better than just about anybody else but still only ever got barely halfway. FFS it was called a pretty fair effort for a whole goddam team to score 300 v that mob, or McGwarne, or Lillee & Thommo, esp on a pitch that the memed 'my dead grandma' may have actually had some difficulty on. But Gooch's Lords effort does have the clubhouse lead.

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Post by embee Thu 05 Dec 2019, 11:24

Barry Richards vs the Wozzies at the WACA

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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 05 Dec 2019, 12:54

Steve Kernahan was first change??? Slack work by BR not to score 1000

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Post by Growler Thu 05 Dec 2019, 13:01

Fair points all, Fred - but the fact remains that any triple takes some scoring, whatever the pitch - and whatever the standard of opposition. There have still only been 31 in the history of Test cricket when all's said and done, and I don't think all can be dismissed as casually as some supporters like to think - IMHO.
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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 05 Dec 2019, 13:28

Absolutely - even if nothing else a triple ton is an impressive feat of concentration and endurance.

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Post by JGK Thu 05 Dec 2019, 14:08

..have there been any triples that break that mould?

Bradman's 334 was something special.   He came in in the second over, scored 66% of th team runs while he was at the crease (including 100 before lunch on Day 1 and 309 in a day) against an attack which included Larwood and Tate.  

And in a match which included Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond, Leyland and McCabe, only Hammond got past the 70s (with a very slow 113).

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Post by taipan Thu 05 Dec 2019, 18:12

Well it was a drawn match. Maybe Bradman should have scored quicker. His SR was only 75
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Post by beamer Thu 05 Dec 2019, 19:40

Who’s the Jason Gillespie/Jason Holder of the triple?

Scoring 300 against a village second XI attack on a road would take some doing. It’s the powers of concentration, the getting into that zone where nothing and nobody will get you out. Only a few players have that in them.

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Post by JGK Fri 06 Dec 2019, 01:41

Sandham.

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Post by PeterCS Fri 06 Dec 2019, 02:57

Jolly:

Especially his accent afterwards, when he's trying to sound posh.
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Post by PeterCS Fri 06 Dec 2019, 03:20

Got to love the Big Mac:

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Post by PeterCS Fri 06 Dec 2019, 03:22

Just as well he wasn't still playing in the recent mini-series vs England ...
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Post by JGK Fri 06 Dec 2019, 05:38

PeterCS wrote:Jolly:

Especially his accent afterwards, when he's trying to sound posh.

Not to mention the fact that hardly anyone seemed to realise that Hammond held the world record at the time.

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Post by Fred Nerk Mon 30 Dec 2019, 07:42

It seems Gerry and Crash agree with me that most triple centuries (not just the ones by batsmen you hate) are 'over-rated' (though given the concensus on that score yagotta ask who by, ie who's doing the over-rating?) - they named their five best Oz innings. Both Despicable Dave and the TPS featured, but in neither case was the particular innings named even a 200.

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Post by Bradman Mon 30 Dec 2019, 08:54

Some cricket magazine the early years of this century named the 100 best innings. Can't remember the order but I think Stan's double or one of Victor's was number one. Though despite Bradman's comment on Stan's a lot of batsmen filled their boots in that match.

Perspective I spose.
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Post by taipan Mon 30 Dec 2019, 09:12

Bradman wrote:Some cricket magazine the early years of this century named the 100 best innings.  Can't remember the order but I think Stan's double or one of Victor's was number one.  Though despite Bradman's comment on Stan's a lot of batsmen filled their boots in that match.

Perspective I spose.

Wisden? Bradman was top.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisden_100
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Post by lardbucket Mon 30 Dec 2019, 09:22

beamer wrote:Who’s the Jason Gillespie/Jason Holder of the triple?

David Sales.

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Post by Bradman Mon 30 Dec 2019, 11:07

taipan wrote:
Bradman wrote:Some cricket magazine the early years of this century named the 100 best innings.  Can't remember the order but I think Stan's double or one of Victor's was number one.  Though despite Bradman's comment on Stan's a lot of batsmen filled their boots in that match.

Perspective I spose.

Wisden? Bradman was top.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisden_100

Nah it was one of tjr Packer mags and it was oz innings. There was a good thread on the ABC forum about it.
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Post by JGK Mon 30 Dec 2019, 11:29

Fred Nerk wrote:It seems Gerry and Crash agree with me that most triple centuries (not just the ones by batsmen you hate) are 'over-rated' (though given the concensus on that score yagotta ask who by, ie who's doing the over-rating?) - they named their five best Oz innings. Both Despicable Dave and the TPS featured, but in neither case was the particular innings named even a 200.

What list is this?

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Post by Fred Nerk Mon 30 Dec 2019, 12:31

Crash nominated his five best innings by Australian batsmen for the decade on Cricket 360 after Friday's play. Smith's 214 from Ashes 2019, Warner's 145 in the Phil Hughes Test at the AO, Clarke's 161 at Capetown in 2014, Agar's 98, and one other I can't remember atm got the nod.

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Post by JGK Mon 30 Dec 2019, 14:36

Agar's 98,

FFS.

Not Warner's ton v NZ at Hobart?

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Post by Fred Nerk Mon 30 Dec 2019, 20:34

II can see Crash's point re Agar - not often you get to bat no 11 and turn a match on its ear, on debut or any time after.

The other innings was Kwaja's match-saving 140 over a day and a half 18 momths ago. Smith's innings in India last time when Soak took 6 for the same 30-something in each innings was also mentioned.

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