Bomb Blast in Islamabad

PlanetPakistan wrote:

Batman wrote:

PlanetPakistan wrote:RIP!

Direct consequences to the Lal Masjid Pakistan created disaster.

Unfortunately, Faisal, a small price for breeding armed fundamentalists to bleed other nations. Raising vipers can only mean disaster since they will bite the very hands that fed them in no time Since the law of the jungle is all they understand. Pakistan is only waking up and smelling the coffee their military establishements since Zia Ul Haq, brew for India over decades.....

The jehadis will not allow a free society as it is against their hardline indoctrination. They will never accept democracy where they are required to be leased. They will never accept any peace since it puts them out of business and killing people is the only work they know.

Love the creativity of some of our Indian friends to find a way to make everything in to an India vs Pakistan match. People just died in Islamabad, Pakistan yet you couldn't help yourself and decided to bring IND in to the equation.

Its about time that folks like yourself look beyond the Shiv Sena school of thought where every thing bad can easily be blamed on the folks a few miles north west of the Maharashtra border. In Pakistan we almost never had these suicide bombs or bombers until that dreaded day of Sept 11 2001 which has ended up being as big a nightmare for Pakistan as it was for the US

condolence to the families of the victims

Not a Shiv Sena thought. But a bitter pill to swallow perhaps. And truth is ALWAYs bitter. Allowing Jehadis to prosper for sure to be used in Afghanistan, India etc. a long legal policy of various Govts. This is not an India - Pak bash off. There was a time when India was suffering from so called 'Kashmiri terrorists' backed by Pak Govts and allowed to set shop on Pak soil. [People like Azhar Masood, Salahuddin etc are still allowed shop]. Now the blood is spilling over in Pakistan as well. It was merely a matter of time. It was always waiting to happen and waiting for a trigger. 9/11 gave that trigger. The citizens ignored the threat of armed militants too long thinking it wouldn't effect them as long as the stage for the bloodshed was India in principle and then Afghanistan later and now this Frankenstein threatens to crush all in it's path. The Pakistani people are paying with their blood for the fruits their Govts. sowed for their own political myopia. I do feel sorry for people dying in Pakistan. But at the same time I find it difficult to sympathize with what they are going through now because they allowed various Governments to subvert their system to benefit fundamentalists and legitimize militancy bent on wreaking havoc in India. I can only be honest about it.

Pakistani people have gullibly allowed themselves to be used by their political masters and ISI in the name of Kashmir and Islam for far too long to not get swept in the tide of blood they allowed to flow.

The Pakistani people may desire now peace and may not hate Indians too an extent as before the last decade. Sadly it is a realization that has dawned a bit too late. The people now need to take hard a look at their own selves and dwelve on the decades lost in festering hatred that helped strengthen the fundamentalists among the people and in the army.

In summary all I can say is that weapons can be fatal to both victims and the person who is using the weapon in case it backfires. There can be no second truth about it.

A true Indo-Pak peace till then will always be a coveted dream but an elusive mirage all the same. It will perhaps take a decade more before a clearer picture on possible peace will emerge from the current political scenario. Till then the peace talks will go, Friendship buses will go and militants will also continue to infiltrate India and kill innocents and certainly this won't be the last bomb blast in Pak either as these militants seek to impose their will even more forcefully on a political disposition caught between the devil and the deep sea and now seeking to sideline them.

Batman wrote:
In summary all I can say is that weapons can be fatal to both victims and the person who is using the weapon in case it backfires. There can be no second truth about it.

Gold.

Skulls -

seriously ... is it any nastier or different to thugs armed with machetes, knives and Kalshnikovs killing, murdering, maiming, and blowing away THEIR OWN PEOPLE ?

Zat wrote:

embee wrote:PP

Vikas (on subjects like India vs Pakistan) is more ignorable than Horrie (on anything) should be ignored.

Fixed.

So who's stopping you? If you are seeking my approval, than you have it. Go ahead and IGNORE me. I would be more happy than you if you did.

a number of blasts in karachi today as well. seems the icc is actively considering lanka as an option. will the weather in lanka hold? no other options for that time of the year i guess

Hey .. here's a thought.

Why don't India nominate Harare and Bulawayo as an option for the CT trophy tournament, rather than Lanka?
Maybe that way the BCCI can get a hands-on idea of what carnage is really like!

Shocking. For some people, a triumph. That is, for the semi-psychotic cowards organising it.

Alternative venue - I've heard Pyongyang has good weather at that time of the year. Only a short flight from Myanmar if they need a second place for the group matches too.

Moss Side?

Toxteth?

Won't happen Gaz ... the Indian Government wouldn't endorse the BCCI to venture there as India and Myanmar are at loggerheads.
Something about a human rights issue ......
Not so - apparently - with Zimbabwe.

BTW - do they play cricket in Burma?
An old colonial hang out, duly raped and pillaged, so I guess they must.

Don't go all imperial guilt on us, Merls.

PeterCS wrote:Don't go all imperial guilt on us, Merls.

Thought I'd get it in first Pete ... afore the avalanche of indignation descends!

i am not that familiar with the indian/pakistani situation.

but to suggest that citizens have any power over their governments is wrong

you all know very well that our respective governments do whatever they like without consulting us (or if they do, its every 5 years where they sell themselves and their policies (lies) like rotting meat at a market). Why is britain in iraq? we protest and they ignore us, then send working class kids to be slaughtered and to slaughter innocents.

we are all prisoners of what our governments decide and if it results in a few deaths then theres plenty more people to replace them - we are just resources

oh cool, its a 'lets make a joke about a suicide bombing' time. just like when the london blasts happened. oh wait...

who was joking

look above

I suppose Clamson that a lot of people themselves have to be accountable when they generously donate money to militant organizations openly collecting the funds to buy bullets to kill Indian soldiers without batting an eyelid. It used to be that bad before 9/11 happened. It was only after USA woke up to these organizations that the official Govt. line changed from 'Freedom Fighters' to 'Terrorists'. For a long time a significant amount of citizens approved their Govts. actions vis a vis India. It's good that a lot of them are now coming around and out of their myopia. Better late than never I suppose. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle and refuses to go back in and even if the Pak Govt sincerely attempts to push militants back in, the attempts will only be greeted wih more violence as they have become a law unto their ownselves and are now clearly out of control drunk in the power that their actions unleash with impunity. Pakistan Govt. is now caught between the devil and the deep sea. If they stop the Jehadis from meddling in India and Afghanistan, they turn on the Govt., as is evidenced from increasing attacks on Govt. arms and if they allow them to meddle in Afghanistan and India, the world breathes down on their necks.

Clamson wrote:who was joking

I think he was refering to Merlin was he?

Merlin wrote:Won't happen Gaz ... the Indian Government wouldn't endorse the BCCI to venture there as India and Myanmar are at loggerheads.
Something about a human rights issue ......
Not so - apparently - with Zimbabwe.

BTW - do they play cricket in Burma?
An old colonial hang out, duly raped and pillaged, so I guess they must.

Er, no? India and China have huge business (and military) interests in Burma and that's one of the few things keeping the military junta there going ... in other words, India is a big supporter of a non-democratic military regime in its own backyard.

The One wrote:oh cool, its a 'lets make a joke about a suicide bombing' time. just like when the london blasts happened. oh wait...

No one makes jokes about bombings TO so stop being so damned sanctimonious.
It certainly wasn't for me during 07/07 when my teenaged daughter left the Edware Road
tube station 15 minutes before the carnage occured, whilst we at home had no idea
(for 3 hours) whether she was safe or not due to the mobile phone black-outs.

The joke however is being unable to differentiate between man's inhumanity to man -
In this particular case - bemoaning the bombings in Pakistan (abhorant as it is)
as opposed to openly endorsing the barbaric genocide in Zimbabwe ......!

The carnage is the same - the recognition of each delusive.

Hope that clears things up!

HH_pink wrote:

Merlin wrote:Won't happen Gaz ... the Indian Government wouldn't endorse the BCCI to venture there as India and Myanmar are at loggerheads.
Something about a human rights issue ......
Not so - apparently - with Zimbabwe.

BTW - do they play cricket in Burma?
An old colonial hang out, duly raped and pillaged, so I guess they must.

Er, no? India and China have huge business (and military) interests in Burma and that's one of the few things keeping the military junta there going ... in other words, India is a big supporter of a non-democratic military regime in its own backyard.

Okay - I recognize the clout India has in the near east .... so dump Lanka and, per Gaza's reccommendation - move the
event to Rangoon. To hell with human rights ....

Easy.

Bugger ... I've just remembered.

Can't move the CT venue from Pakistan to Burma.
They have no vote at the ICC that can be bought.
Lanka it is then!

they can't move it to neighbouring Afghanistan, for sure ..

Meanwhile another attack on Indians and Indian interests by Pakistan and it's Army.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5319606
Karzai calls it like he sees it

President Hamid Karzai condemned the bombing and said it was carried out by militants trying to rupture the friendship between Afghanistan and India.

The Afghan Interior Ministry hinted that the attack was carried out with help from Pakistan's intelligence service, saying that "terrorists have carried out this attack in coordination and consultation with some of the active intelligence circles in the region." The Foreign Minister of Pakistan, Makhdoom Shah Mahmood Qureshi, said Pakistan condemned the attack and terrorism in all forms.

ISI involvement in embassy blast suspected

New Delhi (PTI): The involvement of Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI is suspected in the terror strike at the Indian Embassy in Kabul, whose main targets appear to have been the two senior officials, including the Defence Attache killed in the attack.

An explosive-laden car rammed into the Indian embassy gate in the Shahr-i-Naw area as two cars carrying Brigadier Ravi Dutt Mehta and Counsellor V Venkateswar Rao were entering the embassy compound, official sources said here.

Brig Mehta was just beginning his tenure in Kabul having been posted to the city nearly five months back on February 15, 2008. He was an air defence artillery officer who was commissioned into the armed forces in June 1976.

Two ITBP personnel Ajai Pathania and Roop Singh were also among the 41 people killed in the strike in which 141 were injured.

Rao's body was flung over the roof by the impact of the explosion that blew off the embassy's gates and outer structure and damaged buildings inside the compound. Two Indian embassy vehicles were also damaged, an official said, adding over 140 people were injured in the blast.
Wounded people lay on the road wailing for help amid blood and severed limbs after the blast as a cloud of dust and smoke billowed from the site.

Mehta had recently taken his wife Sunita and two children -- Flight Lieutenant Udit Mehta, M S Bhawiya Mehta -- to Kabul to spend their summer vacation.

Before being posted to the troubled city of Kabul, Mehta had done prolonged tenures in anti-insurgency operations in Jammu and Kashmir and north-east.

His son, who is flying back with the body of his father in the special Indian Air Force IL-76 plane, is a MiG fighter pilot at frontline Jodhpur air base.

The aircraft carrying doctors left for Kabul at 1600 hours and is expected to return to New Delhi past midnight, bringing back the dead bodies of four Indians killed in the blast and scores others injured.

and here's more

Mandeep Singh Bajwa reports that Pakistan 324 Military Intelligence Battalion with Pakistan XI Corps (Peshawar) is behind the suicide car-bomb attack against the Indian Embassy. CNN quotes off-record Indian officials to say two Indian diplomats including a defense attaché were among the 41 killed, along with 2 security guards and six Afghan police. The rest were civilians waiting for visas and shopkeepers who ply their trade along the same street.

from Orbat.com

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