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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:36

So, only 3 days away. Any changes? Any predictions?

Only changes I can think of is Nel in for Harris or Nel in for Ntini. Obviously England have Freddy coming in for Sidebottom/Broad/Collingwood. I really have no idea which of those three it will be though. The selectors are keeping their cards pretty close to their chests. Btw, it will only be Topbottom if he's still suffering with his back.

I think South Africa's pace attack will do much better here. I wouldn't be surprised if they blow us away in at least one innings.
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Post by Gary 111 Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:45

Don't think SA will want to only pick Amla and Prince, so Ntini will play - also might be unfair to judge him on one bad game. Harris should play over Nel, as 5 right arm seamers would be very samey.

Sidebottom looked fit enough to me, there was no need for him to bowl in the afternoon session if he wasn't fit. So Collingwood will drop out for Flintoff.

Headingley is far from a seamers paradise these days too...
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Post by PeterCS Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:32

Seems like a lot of samey seamers in that post.

Seamless transition to Fred?
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Post by Zat Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:44

If smith wins the toss, he'd have to bat, wouldn't he? England's bowlers would start to feel the pinch pretty quickly after the first test.

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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:46

Yeah, good point, Zat. Could be a disaster if that happens.
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Post by Zat Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:48

These days, enforcing the follow-on is something that must be thought through very carefully, I suspect this is why Australia doesn't do it often.

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Post by Zat Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:48

Not suggesting that Ponting thinks. Aus got bitten in India, and the philosophy changed around then.

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Post by PeterCS Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:49

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Yeah, good point, Zat. Could be a disaster if that happens.

Step up to the plate, Ian Bell.
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Post by Zat Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:50

PeterCS wrote:
Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Yeah, good point, Zat. Could be a disaster if that happens.

Step up to the plate, Ian Bell.
Bell bowls?

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Post by PeterCS Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:54

He does. Dibbly-dobbly swingers.
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Post by Zat Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:55

Why does the phrase dibbly-dobbly being used about anything to do with Bell not surprise me?

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Post by PeterCS Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:57

You are not easily surprised?
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Post by Zat Tue 15 Jul 2008, 01:00

Apparently not.

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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 02:26

Fred for Colly should be all. Unless SiBo and Broad are both crocked.
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Post by horace Tue 15 Jul 2008, 05:14

amazed that colly would be dropped...he is a very gutsy trier whose presence will be missed in an otherwise pretty insipid team
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Post by Basil Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:32

horace wrote:amazed that colly would be dropped...he is a very gutsy trier whose presence will be missed in an otherwise pretty insipid team

He can't buy a run.
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Post by taipan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:27

Reports coming through that McKenzie will be out.
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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:29

Thank goodness for that. The odds of a draw just lengthened considerably.
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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:33

Actually to be fair to McKenzie, I have seen him play some sparkling knocks. It just seems that like most of the South African batsmen, he plays within himself in the test matches.

I guess AB will open the innings, and Duminy will come in at six.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jul 2008, 18:42

Spanked a tenner on Super Vaughany to be England's top batsman.
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Post by JKLever Tue 15 Jul 2008, 18:48

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Spunked a tenner on Super Vaughany to be England's top batsman.

Fixed.

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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jul 2008, 18:55

Super Franky Vaughan.
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Post by furriner Tue 15 Jul 2008, 19:07

Vauhghan = Rushdie of English cricket.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jul 2008, 19:13

Furriner = racist of Flaming Bails.
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Post by furriner Tue 15 Jul 2008, 19:19

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