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Post by lardbucket Mon 16 Feb 2009, 13:57

Is LB an outside chance for an Ashes berth?

He's young, he's been taking a lot of wickets recently, he swings the ball a lot (handy in England), he bats well, and he has a great temperament (eg the Shield Final two seasons ago) ... if we are going to send an all-rounder to England, might he yet sneak in ahead of Macdonald, Hopes, Symonds, Watson, Noffke?

OK, it's a 'lardy in pumping up the tyres of a Tasmanian' shocker, but he seems to have all the attributes, in particular, that swinging ball ...

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Post by tac Mon 16 Feb 2009, 13:58

He seems to have a good head(s) on his shoulders as well . . .
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Post by G.Wood Mon 16 Feb 2009, 23:31

LB is a poor man's Shaun Young
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Post by Bradman Tue 17 Feb 2009, 00:32

Still not convinced we need a dedicated all rounder, especially as we don't actually have one.
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Post by horace Tue 17 Feb 2009, 00:37

3 quicks and a spinner...that is all we need ...that and 6 specialist bats and a keeper who catches catches, doesn't cheat and lets through barely any byes
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Post by embee Tue 17 Feb 2009, 01:11

"doesn't cheat"

Horrie in not wanting to select a Vomit shock
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Post by horace Tue 17 Feb 2009, 01:14

it still burns ya don't it embee???


btw...at least we have passed on to you a very decent bowler...I saw Knowles had taken a michelle
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Post by embee Tue 17 Feb 2009, 01:31

If it was a once off it would be a burn ...it happens so often it's more like a rash

Knowles also hit a sozzie in the head at Bunbury ...hope he continues on like that ...They have left him out of the Shield game though
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Post by horace Tue 17 Feb 2009, 02:41

lol..c'mon it's just crosseyes...you mcan have him at the end of the season for backup for flatnote who will have hopefully taken over from haddit by then..

re knobbly...maybe they are worried about his ability to come up for a 4 day match ...has had injuries in the past
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Post by lardbucket Fri 17 Dec 2010, 21:39

Butterworth continues to shine for Tasmania ... now opening the bowling, swings the ball, makes runs, and is tough as nails. Ran through the wozzies yesterday like a dose of salmonella ...

WC 2011?

His mate James Faulkner isn't too shabby either.

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Post by Nath Fri 17 Dec 2010, 22:52

lardbucket wrote:Butterworth continues to shine for Tasmania ... now opening the bowling, swings the ball, makes runs, and is tough as nails. Ran through the wozzies yesterday like a dose of salmonella ...

WC 2011?

guess you didn't see the squad. not there.
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Post by lardbucket Sat 18 Dec 2010, 00:17

No, I hadn't seen it. Seems early. Typical anti-Tozzie bias ...

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Post by PeterCS Sat 18 Dec 2010, 01:07

Blame the Tozzie. Typical.


And come to think of it, when was the last time a Northern Territorian got a fair crack of the whip? Marto apart, that is.
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Post by Big Dog Sat 18 Dec 2010, 06:46

Butters has 23 wickets this season at an average of 17...more wickets than Cameron in fact. I had him as an option in my Test team for Perth but it seems the selectors have lost his number.
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Post by Henry Sat 18 Dec 2010, 07:11

Butterworth is a 125kph trundler. I think Andrew McDonald established pretty emphatically that bits and pieces medium pacers with moderate batting ability aren't successful at Test level.
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Post by Big Dog Sat 18 Dec 2010, 07:21

Butterworth is a 125kph trundler

Obviously his stats would suggest otherwise.
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Post by Henry Sat 18 Dec 2010, 07:47

His bowling stats are similar to McDonald's. We all know about his bowling.
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Post by lardbucket Sat 18 Dec 2010, 12:02

Henry wrote:Butterworth is a 125kph trundler. I think Andrew McDonald established pretty emphatically that bits and pieces medium pacers with moderate batting ability aren't successful at Test level.


Henry ... perhaps you should confine your opinions to players you've seen. LB can touch 140 ... and swing the ball either way. One to watch. Chris Swan from Queensland is another ... but probably too old now.

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Post by skully Sat 18 Dec 2010, 12:09

Now now lardy, you know Trev is the resident Pom know-it-all on Aus players.
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Post by Henry Sun 19 Dec 2010, 01:09

lardbucket wrote:
Henry wrote:Butterworth is a 125kph trundler. I think Andrew McDonald established pretty emphatically that bits and pieces medium pacers with moderate batting ability aren't successful at Test level.


Henry ... perhaps you should confine your opinions to players you've seen. LB can touch 140 ... and swing the ball either way. One to watch. Chris Swan from Queensland is another ... but probably too old now.

I have seen him. He was nowhere near 140. Unless Warney also lent him his Lamborghini?
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Post by Big Dog Sun 19 Dec 2010, 06:37

Henry wrote:
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Henry wrote:Butterworth is a 125kph trundler. I think Andrew McDonald established pretty emphatically that bits and pieces medium pacers with moderate batting ability aren't successful at Test level.


Henry ... perhaps you should confine your opinions to players you've seen. LB can touch 140 ... and swing the ball either way. One to watch. Chris Swan from Queensland is another ... but probably too old now.

I have seen him. He was nowhere near 140. Unless Warney also lent him his Lamborghini?

You must have had your video on slow-mo. Butters took 4/59 to wrap up the game against WA today making it 7 for the match. He is now second on the Shield bowling table with 26 at an average of 16.
125kph trundlers in England may be able to return stats like that but not in Australia.
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Post by Henry Sun 19 Dec 2010, 07:35

I'll admit I haven't seen him since the Shield final in 2007. Has he put on a yard of pace since then?

Seemed to have more promise as a batsman than as a bowler back then.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 19 Dec 2010, 11:56

I did mention that he was now opening the bowling. He's still a youngster, but he's a fair bit stronger than when he started.

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Post by JGK Sun 19 Dec 2010, 13:27

Given the improvement in Harris over the last 2 years, I am not about to suggest that Butters is "just" a good Shield player. I haven't seen enough of him tbh. But his stats this year are excellent.

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Post by Zat Mon 20 Dec 2010, 03:34

Henry wrote:I'll admit I haven't seen him since the Shield final in 2007.
Congratulations Mudgeypoo, that earns you the king of irrelevancy title for the fourth successive year.

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