Re: Jury Service

by iieee Thu 01 Nov 2007, 14:15

Someone I know got called up to jury duty, and sat on a case involving one chav girl glassing another... he thought she did it, but he voted 'not guilty' because she had nice boobs.

by furriner Thu 01 Nov 2007, 14:22

That's as good a defense as any. Better than some.

by Zat Thu 01 Nov 2007, 19:35

Invader Zim wrote:I got called up to a murder case about a decade ago...

He'd killed his wife...I tried to get him off, but the evidence was too compelling.

Moral of the story: don't say nuthing to the cops.

Funny, could've sworn the moral to that story would be: Don't kill your wife.

by mynah Thu 01 Nov 2007, 19:56

I still don't see why a guy who has studied law for years and practised it for many more to become a judge should need a bunch of people picked off the street to tell him who is guilty.

by Guest Thu 01 Nov 2007, 19:59

Demelza wrote:
Have you ever been called?

Yeah, it was really interesting too. There were illegal immigrants, West End nightclubs, bhangra dancing and prostitutes. I was Jury Foreman and got to say "Guilty!"

by tac Thu 01 Nov 2007, 23:30

Rob I wrote:
Demelza wrote:
Have you ever been called?

Yeah, it was really interesting too. There were illegal immigrants, West End nightclubs, bhangra dancing and prostitutes. I was Jury Foreman and got to say "Guilty!"

Is that where you first met filosofee?

by Shoeshine Thu 01 Nov 2007, 23:33

mynah wrote:I still don't see why a guy who has studied law for years and practised it for many more to become a judge should need a bunch of people picked off the street to tell him who is guilty.

Because the principle is that you are judged by your peers, not by someone who is a product of the legal system.

by tac Thu 01 Nov 2007, 23:37

Shoeshine wrote:
mynah wrote:I still don't see why a guy who has studied law for years and practised it for many more to become a judge should need a bunch of people picked off the street to tell him who is guilty.

Because the principle is that you are judged by your peers, not by someone who is a product of the legal system.

But where will you find 12 people even half as ****** up as Mynah? Peers my arse . . .

by Shoeshine Thu 01 Nov 2007, 23:40

tac wrote:
Shoeshine wrote:
mynah wrote:I still don't see why a guy who has studied law for years and practised it for many more to become a judge should need a bunch of people picked off the street to tell him who is guilty.

Because the principle is that you are judged by your peers, not by someone who is a product of the legal system.

But where will you find 12 people even half as ****** up as Mynah? Peers my arse . . .

That is indeed a problem. For example, I think it would be very hard to find twelve people remotely as intelligent as me... Wink

by mynah Fri 02 Nov 2007, 03:47

tac wrote:
Shoeshine wrote:
mynah wrote:I still don't see why a guy who has studied law for years and practised it for many more to become a judge should need a bunch of people picked off the street to tell him who is guilty.

Because the principle is that you are judged by your peers, not by someone who is a product of the legal system.

But where will you find 12 people even half as ****** up as Mynah? Peers my arse . . .

Aye, not too many other six star minds about...

by Mick Sawyer Fri 02 Nov 2007, 03:55

"Aye, not too many other six star minds about..."

Smile

by embee Fri 02 Nov 2007, 03:57

iieee wrote:Someone I know got called up to jury duty, and sat on a case involving one chav girl glassing another... he thought she did it, but he voted 'not guilty' because she had nice boobs.

...also voted winner of the Seaside Summarize Proust competition

by mynah Fri 02 Nov 2007, 04:56

Proof that judicial decisions should not be left to the public affraid

Nkanunu claimed that his DNA profile, obtained from samples found on the woman's duvet and underwear, "had been placed there by someone else".

"There are people that suck bodily fluids out of a person at night when they are asleep. This is the work of witches. They must have put my bodily fluids there."

by Mick Sawyer Fri 02 Nov 2007, 05:37

mynah wrote:Proof that judicial decisions should not be left to the public

Nkanunu claimed that his DNA profile, obtained from samples found on the woman's duvet and underwear, "had been placed there by someone else".

"There are people that suck bodily fluids out of a person at night when they are asleep. This is the work of witches. They must have put my bodily fluids there."

Rodney King & OJ also come to mind........

by mynah Fri 02 Nov 2007, 05:56

Aye... DNA profiling and the polymerase chain reaction for dummies...

by Mick Sawyer Fri 02 Nov 2007, 06:19

"polymerase chain reaction"

Thank fark for Google - saved me confirming my shortcomings.

Now that I'm fully briefed on "polymerase chain reaction" the guy may have had a purpose - entrails of bats kind of stuff would be simpler for the average jury punter.

by mynah Fri 02 Nov 2007, 06:38

Mick Sawyer wrote:"polymerase chain reaction"

Thank fark for Google - saved me confirming my shortcomings.

Now that I'm fully briefed on "polymerase chain reaction" the guy may have had a purpose - entrails of bats kind of stuff would be simpler for the average jury punter.

I have a post-graduate degree in genetics, and I found it hard enough to understand... affraid

by Neil D Sat 03 Nov 2007, 23:03

I used to be paralegal for a law firm, so I spent a couple of years assisting our instructed barristers in the Crown Court.

I was always fanscinated by juries. They never seem to make decisions based on the evidence, more on who they like the most. I reckon most of them make a decision about the defendant's guilt in the first 2 minutes of the case ("He can't have done it, he looks like my son" ... "He's obviously guilty, he's got shifty eyes" etc)

I've seen guys convicted on the flimsiest of evidence, and seen people acquitted who couldn't have been more guilty if they'd had "I F**KING DID IT" tattooed on their heads.

It's a funny old system, but I suppose it's the best available.

by LeFromage Sat 03 Nov 2007, 23:21

Neil D wrote:
I've seen guys convicted on the flimsiest of evidence, and seen people acquitted who couldn't have been more guilty if they'd had "I F**KING DID IT" tattooed on their heads.

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by JKLever Sun 04 Nov 2007, 00:04

I think they had it right in the middle ages.

Chuck em in the river and if they float they're guilty...

by HH_pink Sun 04 Nov 2007, 00:16

tac wrote:
Demelza wrote:Didn't you want to do it?

Not really . . . bit if a waste of time unless it's the OJ Simpson case or something similarly farked up.

Yeah. tac'll never go near anything that's got anything to do with contributing in a positive way to society. Razz

by tac Sun 04 Nov 2007, 01:49

HH_pink wrote:
tac wrote:
Demelza wrote:Didn't you want to do it?

Not really . . . bit if a waste of time unless it's the OJ Simpson case or something similarly farked up.

Yeah. tac'll never go near anything that's got anything to do with contributing in a positive way to society.

Exactly. I am the antichrist FFS!

by Shoeshine Sun 04 Nov 2007, 11:03

tac wrote:
HH_pink wrote:
tac wrote:
Demelza wrote:Didn't you want to do it?

Not really . . . bit if a waste of time unless it's the OJ Simpson case or something similarly farked up.

Yeah. tac'll never go near anything that's got anything to do with contributing in a positive way to society.

Exactly. I am the antichrist FFS!

Really? So do you take the oath or affirm? Laughing

by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2007, 12:32

tac wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Demelza wrote:
Have you ever been called?

Yeah, it was really interesting too. There were illegal immigrants, West End nightclubs, bhangra dancing and prostitutes. I was Jury Foreman and got to say "Guilty!"

Is that where you first met filosofee?

Racist and sexist. Nice.

by tac Sun 04 Nov 2007, 12:42

Rob I wrote:
tac wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Demelza wrote:
Have you ever been called?

Yeah, it was really interesting too. There were illegal immigrants, West End nightclubs, bhangra dancing and prostitutes. I was Jury Foreman and got to say "Guilty!"

Is that where you first met filosofee?

Racist and sexist. Nice.

Glad you approve, Rob I, it's important to my sense of self-worth . . . .

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