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Post by Basil Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:47 pm

Yep
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Post by Basil Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:40 pm

Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:The “no deal” free vote today should prove interesting
I'm willing to bet that No Deal is voted down by a majority of 300+
Having said that, tonight's vote does not carry the force of law, so crashing out of the EU without a deal cannot be entirely ruled out.
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Post by taipan Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:30 am

Basil wrote:
Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:The “no deal” free vote today should prove interesting
I'm willing to bet that No Deal is voted down by a majority of 300+
Having said that, tonight's vote does not carry the force of law, so crashing out of the EU without a deal cannot be entirely ruled out.

Maybe I am missing something, but WTF is the point of the vote?
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Post by horace Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:51 am

Basil, is there any prospect of a second referendum being considered by the HoC this week?
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Post by Basil Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:59 am

taipan wrote:
Basil wrote:
Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:The “no deal” free vote today should prove interesting
I'm willing to bet that No Deal is voted down by a majority of 300+
Having said that, tonight's vote does not carry the force of law, so crashing out of the EU without a deal cannot be entirely ruled out.

Maybe I am missing something, but WTF is the point of the vote?
I think it's a piece of chicanery from No 10 and they will have another go at getting May's deal through next week. As I understand the legalities, the H of C would have to vote to revoke Article 50 to definitively take No Deal off the table.
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Post by Basil Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:01 am

horace wrote:Basil, is there any prospect of a second referendum being considered by the HoC this week?
No. No one seems to think that there would be a majority for it at the moment. But the longer this disaster rolls on, who knows?
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Post by taipan Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:06 am

Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:
Basil wrote:
Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:The “no deal” free vote today should prove interesting
I'm willing to bet that No Deal is voted down by a majority of 300+
Having said that, tonight's vote does not carry the force of law, so crashing out of the EU without a deal cannot be entirely ruled out.

Maybe I am missing something, but WTF is the point of the vote?
I think it's a piece of chicanery from No 10 and they will have another go at getting May's deal through next week. As I understand the legalities, the H of C would have to vote to revoke Article 50 to definitively take No Deal off the table.

I thought tney would be voting for an extension of A50 tomorrow?
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Post by Basil Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:13 am

taipan wrote:
Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:
Basil wrote:
Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:The “no deal” free vote today should prove interesting
I'm willing to bet that No Deal is voted down by a majority of 300+
Having said that, tonight's vote does not carry the force of law, so crashing out of the EU without a deal cannot be entirely ruled out.

Maybe I am missing something, but WTF is the point of the vote?
I think it's a piece of chicanery from No 10 and they will have another go at getting May's deal through next week. As I understand the legalities, the H of C would have to vote to revoke Article 50 to definitively take No Deal off the table.

I thought tney would be voting for an extension of A50 tomorrow?
They can vote to ask for an extension but granting it is in the gift of the EU. Personally, I don't see the point unless it's for up to 18 months to  allow for a second referendum / general election / renegotiation.
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Post by taipan Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:04 am

So it's a fotal tuck up whatever happens
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Post by Basil Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:39 am

taipan wrote:So it's a fotal tuck up whatever happens
And then some.
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Post by Basil Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:57 am

Basil wrote:
taipan wrote:The “no deal” free vote today should prove interesting
I'm willing to bet that No Deal is voted down by a majority of 300+
I was only 257 out - not bad  Rolling Eyes
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Post by skully Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:58 am

So the HoC has twice voted down the DEAL that May struck with the EU (and that they now refuse to further negotiate on) but now they've voted that a NO DEAL Brexit is not acceptable??

WTF???

Just what do these elected qunts want?? Other than chaos.
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Post by Basil Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:14 am

Meaningful Vote 3 next week. That one might be close if the Brexiters form the opinion that it's either May's deal or no Brexit. Paradoxically, those MP' s most opposed to Brexit might just be responsible for ushering it in.
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Post by horace Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:14 am

skully wrote:So the HoC has twice voted down the DEAL that May struck with the EU (and that they now refuse to further negotiate on) but now they've voted that a NO DEAL Brexit is not acceptable??

WTF???

Just what do these elected qunts want?? Other than chaos.

Aye Skully. It is less of a shower, but more a deluge of shyte.

I see the Rees-Moggy Leavers are off to lobby the EU to refuse to grant Pomgolia a time extension to come up with a a solution.
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Post by JGK Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:48 am

This is what happens when Parliament tries to take over an executive function.

That said, it is entertaining as hell.

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Post by Bradman Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:22 pm

Yeah nice to watch another country do it to themselves for a change.
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Post by skully Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:54 pm

What an embarrassing clusterfark. The elected morons should hang their collective heads.
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Post by Bradman Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:52 pm

Isnt John Snow a relly?
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Post by eowyn Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:13 pm

Yes he is a descendant, he played him recently in drama on the BBC.

(You did mean Kit Harrington and not the newsreader?)
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Post by Bradman Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:41 pm

Nor the cricketer.
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Post by taipan Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:57 pm

He knows nothing
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Post by taipan Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:21 am

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Growler wrote:Of course we all know who's ultimately responsible for the whole debacle, but he'll never be held responsible for it.

He's not a Brexiteer.

Cameron?
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Post by horace Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:54 am

In a case of consummate bad timing, just one soldier has been charged with murder and attempted murder from the Bloody Sunday slaughter of unarmed protesters in Derry by the British Army. It has taken 47 years to reach this point.

At the height of the BREXIT disaster this dire result is the last thing the North and the Republic needs.

Those seeking justice for 47 years will be sorely tested. The English Government has thrown it's full support behind the former soldier who has been charged. The Tory response to the charges is an open invitation to more bitterness.

On top of the English blithe disregard for the implications of BREXIT on Nthn Ireland, the position it's government is taking on the charges seems designed to provoke trouble.
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Post by Basil Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:26 pm

There's no such thing as an English Government.
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