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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 00:56

When we finally dump the monarchy, what do we reckon to this as the national anthem?

Very much a British song rather than an English one.

With the added bonus of the lovely Ms Jenkins

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Post by tac Wed 21 Nov 2007, 01:08

Not a little too Victorian? Certainly a lovely tune, but does it represent Britain as it now exists?


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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 01:20

You mean like France & Germanys does? Wink

Nothing wrong with the lyrics IMO, nothing overtly religious in it, or colonial.

I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;
The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
That lays 'pon the altar the dearest and the best;
The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.
And there's another country, I've heard of long ago,
Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;
We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;
Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;
And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,
And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 21 Nov 2007, 03:12

Overstated, soppy, rubbish IMO. We may as well go for James Blunt's 'Your Beautiful' -

"I saw your meadows, on a wet sunday afternoon, and I don't know what to do. It's a pity they're covered with sheep poo".


I nominate "Paint it Black" by the Stones. Or "Lovely Rita". Or perhaps "It's getting better all the tiiii-ime".
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Post by Guest Wed 21 Nov 2007, 06:14

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Overstated, soppy, rubbish IMO.

Jupiter is a much better tune, though.

I'd go for Jerusalem.

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Post by eowyn Wed 21 Nov 2007, 06:17

It's good if you want to go for tradtional and rousing.

Personally I'm with Billy Connelly and go for the Archer's theme tune.
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Post by Guest Wed 21 Nov 2007, 06:39

Haven't we done all this on another thread?

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Post by Merlin Wed 21 Nov 2007, 06:42

Throw in the gorgeous Katherine Jenkins as the bonus and I'd willingly sign up to dump the monarchy (small m) - BUT - not to have that dirge ... ugghh ...

Jerusalem - now that's an anthem.

Somehow, however, I cannot see our PC politicians adopting it in this "multi-cultural" society that Britain is right now!
It would be considered offensive ... as the local govt in Birmingham deemed not so long back !!

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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 09:29

Jerusalems an English song.

HTF can you have a UK national anthem singing about England?
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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 09:31

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Overstated, soppy, rubbish IMO. We may as well go for James Blunt's 'Your Beautiful' -

"I saw your meadows, on a wet sunday afternoon, and I don't know what to do. It's a pity they're covered with sheep poo".


I nominate "Paint it Black" by the Stones. Or "Lovely Rita". Or perhaps "It's getting better all the tiiii-ime".

Its an anthem, not the 100 greatest hits duh!
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Post by Merlin Wed 21 Nov 2007, 11:13

JKLever wrote:Jerusalems an English song.

HTF can you have a UK national anthem singing about England?

Easy ... The same way as you can have one that implores God to save and give long life to a po faced "monarch" of German ancestry married to a descendant of Pythaghoras, whom together own enough land to cover half of England.

The anthem is about the Country and its people - not about its tribal ruler.

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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 11:39

Merlin wrote:
JKLever wrote:Jerusalems an English song.

HTF can you have a UK national anthem singing about England?

Easy ... The same way as you can have one that implores God to save and give long life to a po faced "monarch" of German ancestry married to a descendant of Pythaghoras, whom together own enough land to cover half of England.

The anthem is about the Country and its people - not about its tribal ruler.

The one does not correspond to the other.
Jerusalem is an English song not a British one.
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Post by eowyn Wed 21 Nov 2007, 11:54

Prince Philip's ancestry is mainly Danish with a bit of greek.

merlin is obviously an advocate for full division of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain once he pops the Queen of her throne, Mr Lever.
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Post by Fred Nerk Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:02

Jerusalem's a great piece of music but I'd suggest some might find its title a tad confusing as a national anthem.

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Post by Merlin Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:07

eowyn wrote:Prince Philip's ancestry is mainly Danish with a bit of greek.

merlin is obviously an advocate for full division of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain once he pops the Queen of her throne, Mr Lever.

Sadly popping the queen off her throne would only open the floodgates for the rest of the half-wit incumbent leeches waiting in the wings.

Philip may have Danish ancestry dating back to the Vikings, but he was born a Greek prince, of Greek 'royalty', which of course is no more!

Spread the wealth!
Anything wrong with that?

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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:07

eowyn wrote:Prince Philip's ancestry is mainly Danish with a bit of greek.

merlin is obviously an advocate for full division of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain once he pops the Queen of her throne, Mr Lever.

Well, he could have blinkin said!
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Post by Merlin Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:10

[quote="JKLever"]
Merlin wrote:
JKLever wrote:

The anthem is about the Country and its people - not about its tribal ruler.

The one does not correspond to the other.
Jerusalem is an English song not a British one.

Pray tell, how does our current anthem reflect 'Britain', when it's about one person who is "happy and glorious and victorious" ? Wink

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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:18

F''k off.
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Post by Merlin Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:20

JKLever wrote:
eowyn wrote:Prince Philip's ancestry is mainly Danish with a bit of greek.

merlin is obviously an advocate for full division of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain once he pops the Queen of her throne, Mr Lever.

Well, he could have blinkin said!

Well ......... the Scots, the Irish and the Welsh all have their own autonomous governments ......so why can't England, who provides for them all anyway !

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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:37

Batfink Begins wrote:F''k off.

eh?

fookin royalist Wink
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Post by JKLever Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:38

Merlin wrote:

Well ......... the Scots, the Irish and the Welsh all have their own autonomous governments ......so why can't England, who provides for them all anyway !

er, i've not said they shouldn't, but if you want a new anthem for England at least pick an English song mate Wink
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:42

Very Happy Nah, I'm just not patriotic in the way which I'd have anything to do with a national anthem.
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:43

JKLever wrote:er, i've not said they shouldn't, but if you want a new anthem for England at least pick an English song mate Wink

English Rose by the Jam then.
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Post by Merlin Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:46

JKLever wrote:
Merlin wrote:

Well ......... the Scots, the Irish and the Welsh all have their own autonomous governments ......so why can't England, who provides for them all anyway !

er, i've not said they shouldn't, but if you want a new anthem for England at least pick an English song mate Wink
We're back full circle.

Jerusalem ... all about England's green and pleasant land, chariots of fire and arrows of desire ... nice!

Fink ... a Royalist?!
Cor blimey .........


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Post by eowyn Wed 21 Nov 2007, 12:46

Batfink Begins wrote:
JKLever wrote:er, i've not said they shouldn't, but if you want a new anthem for England at least pick an English song mate Wink

English Rose by the Jam then.

Awww I'm singing that to myself now Smile
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