Re: England v India, 4th Test, The Oval, 18-22 August, 2011

by JKLever Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:13

Tremors out, Onions called up as Anderson a doubt.

Could be

Broad
Bresnan
Finn
Swann

?

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:38

It's looking more and more like an Indian moral victory! Wink

Trembles is a worry, isn't he? One thinks he's gotten rid of crockyness then his return keeps getting postponed. I'll be really glad if Janderson is out - he never gets a rest from international cricket. Well, barely ever. We're bowling him into the f*cking ground.

OK, it means Tonk-fodder is likely to play, but that's cool.

by PeterCS Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:46

Brass Monkey wrote:Depends what Asian commentator's you're on about you utterly racist sh!t.

Pun-essr.

That vilkrang stash - it's adulterated sh!t you've been snorting, man. Did you pay him full price?

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:49

Not a penny, I flashed him my family jewels. And the stuff was rubbish anyway, I'm thinking a mixture of chalk and novocaine.

by PeterCS Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:59

Some Michael Caine in there too. Not a lot of people ...

Why is Tremlett out? After all - despite announcements - still injured? Or a new knock?

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 02:01

PeterCS wrote:Some Michael Caine in there too. Not a lot of people ...

Why is Tremlett out? After all - despite announcements - still injured? Or a new knock?

Typical Lever, eh? Just bombs in without the article. It's the back. It moved from his hammy to his back in the last Test.

by Allan D Tue 16 Aug 2011, 02:51

Despite the much-vaunted back-up team with its scientific and medical expertise both Trott and Tremlett do not appear to be responding to treatment. Both look strong doubts for the one-dayers (although Tremlett would probably have been unlikely to have been selected anyway). Maybe they should get in touch with Paul Stephenson, ex-Met Commissioner, about a weekend at Champneys!

drunken

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 02:54

England news

Onions called up to England squad

August 15, 2011

Graham Onions has been called up to the England squad for the final Test against India at The Oval after Chris Tremlett was ruled out due to his back injury while concerns emerged over James Anderson.

Tremlett has failed to recover from the problems that ruled him out of the second and third Tests, meanwhile Anderson has experienced tightness in his right quadriceps since the victory at Edgbaston, on Sunday, which sealed the series and took England to No. 1 in the world. Steven Finn was already in the 13-man squad and now Onions will provide a further option for Andy Flower.

For Onions it is his first call-up to the full national side since leaving the tour of Bangladesh in March 2010 with a back injury that would subsequently be diagnosed as a stress fracture and put his career in doubt. He missed the whole of the 2010 season and towards the end of the summer had metal pins inserted in his back.

"Unfortunately Chris Tremlett has failed a fitness test and won't be available for selection for the fourth Test, despite showing strong signs of recovery over the past few days," Geoff Miller, the national selector, said. "Chris's absence in conjunction with what appears to be a minor injury concern with Jimmy Anderson has led to a call up for Graham Onions as precautionary bowling cover.

"We are hopeful that Jimmy will overcome this niggle by Thursday but more time is required before a decision on his availability can be made conclusively. Steven Finn is obviously in the squad and he is now joined by Graham Onions who has been in good form for Durham since returning from a back injury at the start of the season."

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Onions has taken 39 wickets at 28.82 in nine Championship matches for Durham this season and played for England Lions against Sri Lanka at Derby in May. He only took three wickets in that match but bowled with good pace and has remained highly rated by the selectors throughout his injury lay-off.

In eight Tests Onions has taken 28 wickets at 31.03 including a best of 5 for 38 which came on debut against West Indies at Lord's. However, he is equally famous for two efforts with the bat when he survived the final overs against South Africa at Centurion and Cape Town. The Test at Newlands was his last because he was then dropped for the final match of the series at Johannesburg before injury struck in Bangladesh.

Onions has been preferred over Jade Dernbach, the Surrey fast bowler, who was named as cover for the Lord's Test against Sri Lanka earlier this season and has also made his one-day international debut. Whether he earns a recall to the XI will depend on whether Anderson, who has 18 wickets in the series including his four-wicket burst to remove the India top order on the fourth day at Edgbaston, is replaced with a like-for-like bowler should he not recover by Thursday.

Finn is the next pace bowler in line for a spot having played against Sri Lanka and has been a regular part of the squad, but Flower and Andrew Strauss may decide that with Stuart Broad and Tim Bresnan able to trouble India with the short ball that Onions' fuller length is a better option.

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 03:01

Allan D wrote:Despite the much-vaunted back-up team with its scientific and medical expertise both Trott and Tremlett do not appear to be responding to treatment.

Suppose they haven't cracked the code. They cannot work miracles. They shouldn't be ashamed of themselves. I'm sure a 6' 8" henchman's back is quite a delicate thing, unfortunately. Probably a sprained shoulder joint is too. These games come thick and fast.

by furriner Tue 16 Aug 2011, 03:17

Help.

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 03:22

Help, what, furry?

by LeFromage Tue 16 Aug 2011, 03:45

Said Anderson wouldn't last the series. Said it.

But like Mike Hussey crying rape, no-one would listen.

Pack him off for the rest of the summer. Don't pick him for the ODIs. That boy needs some serious R&R.

Onions, eh? Good to see him back. More like for like than Finn, so I'd probably go the vegetable way if push came to shove - but the Oval's often got decent bounce and carry, so Huckleberry could go well.

Looked awesome last time I saw him bowl (in a T20). But then he was appalling in his last Test outing against SL. What to do...?

by Brass Monkey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 04:06

You did note Jimmy half a due. This dead rubber should afford us the change. It doesn't matter what the conditions are like, Finn is the next, expensive, cab off the rank. And that's how it stays. Unforch.

by Basil Tue 16 Aug 2011, 04:40

I'd go for Finn as Brezzie is essentially a pitch-it-up-and-swing-it merchant.

by LeFromage Tue 16 Aug 2011, 04:42

Get your hard-earned on Sachin's hundredth hundred, I reckons.

Dead rubber, flattie, no Nemesis, Finn - the stars are aligning.

by LeFromage Tue 16 Aug 2011, 04:46

Basil wrote:I'd go for Finn as Brezzie is essentially a pitch-it-up-and-swing-it merchant.

That's been said before, but I've not seen much evidence of Bresnan being a natural swing bowler. Tends to hammer back of a length and get a bit of nibble.

I'd say Onions gets more "shape". Then again, if it's swingy conditions, Broad is probably the most dangerous as he, surprisingly, can get the ball to go quite late. When he isn't landing it on his own shoes like a dipstick.

by Basil Tue 16 Aug 2011, 04:58

At least we can discern the shape of the seam-bowling line-up for the winter. Any three from Jimmy, Broad, Brezzie, Finn, Onions and Tremlett. Actually, that's one too many, so I would guess that Onions will miss out - assuming all the others maintain or recover full fitness.

by Growler Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:18

Jimmy & Stu B are nailed on picks IMO Baz, which leaves one from Brezzy Lad, Trembler or Onions. I reckon Finn will miss out on tests but get experience in the one-dayers. That's how I'd see it anyway if I were a selector.

by LeFromage Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:20

Tremlett is bound to need an operation. Probably.

I mean, if history is anything go by. That's usually how it goes with him - a slight niggle rules him out for a week "two weeks tops - not serious", then he's not seen again for a month, then he's on the surgeon's slab. And then there's some kind of complication during the healing - an infection - and then there's a set-back in the rehab.

And then he's making his comeback, the following season, some nine months after the initial niggle.

by JKLever Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:43

Career ending injury most probably, the big jess.

by Yorkie Jill Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:46

Yay Grahamy.

by LeFromage Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:53

Huh? Oh. Onions. I see.

I thought you'd just had a Thorpie fantasy and absent-mindedly shared the moment of climax with all of us.

by Yorkie Jill Tue 16 Aug 2011, 08:48

He's my first Grahamy. And then there's Graemey. But Onions can be the third.

by LeFromage Tue 16 Aug 2011, 08:54

What, no Goochie love?

It's the wig, isn't it? Chicks don't dig the wig...

by Zat Tue 16 Aug 2011, 08:54

I've heard of 'sloppy seconds', but what's the correct adjective for 'thirds'? Just asking, s'all...

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