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Question G.
Who wrote this, about whom?
There is a sizeable clue about the latter under the Spoiler, if you need it.
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A big, barrel-chested lad, he was a lot quicker than people think and he could swing it in and out - very rare - and also move it both ways off the seam. Kenny Barrington thought he was 'absolutely outstanding' - and he should know. ...
He could make useful runs down the order and averaged 22 with the bat but, more importantly, in a tight situation he could take the initiative away from the bowler. ...
He provides options by being able to bowl 'em out or bottle 'em up - that rarest of breeds, an attacking bowler who doesn't give runs away - and that's a captain's dream. He's in my team [for that country] any time.
Who wrote this, about whom?
There is a sizeable clue about the latter under the Spoiler, if you need it.
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A big, barrel-chested lad, he was a lot quicker than people think and he could swing it in and out - very rare - and also move it both ways off the seam. Kenny Barrington thought he was 'absolutely outstanding' - and he should know. ...
He could make useful runs down the order and averaged 22 with the bat but, more importantly, in a tight situation he could take the initiative away from the bowler. ...
He provides options by being able to bowl 'em out or bottle 'em up - that rarest of breeds, an attacking bowler who doesn't give runs away - and that's a captain's dream. He's in my team [for that country] any time.
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- [This bit goes before the conclusion above.] His ability to swing the ball out set him apart; most left-armers can swing it in to the right-hander but rarely the other way. And he could do it in the toughest conditions, like Pakistan and India ...
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PeterCS wrote:Question G.
Who wrote this, about whom?
There is a sizeable clue about the latter under the Spoiler, if you need it.
Didn't need it. It was easy.
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Alan Mullally
Alan Davidson
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Grrrr.
And like many an England opener, you didn't even address the opening delivery.
And like many an England opener, you didn't even address the opening delivery.
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PeterCS wrote:Grrrr.
And like many an England opener, you didn't even address the opening delivery.
Like not many an England opener, I smashed the first ball straight down the ground for a DLF maximum - quote me and ye shall see what ye, and peterg, love.
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Mullally wouldn't average 22 with the bat in his own village green cricket!
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Quote the original answer I gave and all will be revealed. Gollygosh, if you were a spy, you'd be dead by now. Or had a burn notice put on you.
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Invisible writing? That's James Bond Jr stuff!
Round here, we stand up like men and be counted, sir.
Who wrote it anyhow? You still skipped that bit. The first ball, likes I said.
It gated you worse than a gay alligator wearing gaiters at the gates of Everglades Alligator Park.
Round here, we stand up like men and be counted, sir.
Who wrote it anyhow? You still skipped that bit. The first ball, likes I said.
It gated you worse than a gay alligator wearing gaiters at the gates of Everglades Alligator Park.
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PeterCS wrote:taipan wrote:mynah wrote:This player was selected to make his debut in test cricket three times. In neither of the two times he missed out was he unavailable to play for any reason. The circumstances in which he failed to make his debut the first two times were highly unusual, and the first instance differed entirely from the second.
Who is this?
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Jacques Rudolph
bumpity bump for mynah to find.
Yup, everyone knows about the second time, but the first got rather overshadowed by the events around it.
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True.Brass Monkey wrote:Oh, the wife beater.
Well, the person. Can't remember the legal outcome.
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How very correct of you. Let us just call him: "un mari brutal" because it was a French conviction. You can sigh with relief.
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I wasn't being PC. I just remember it being batted around a bit. Was it quashed, was it upheld? Was it appealed? I remember it was a case for ages.
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Aye, upheld. He said she fell - the court(after having seen photographic evidence) said "What, did she fall again and again, in different places?".
Lucky to be in a job, really.
Lucky to be in a job, really.
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Maybe she did fall again and again, in different places.
At the end of his bat. :-O
Yeah, you're right, of course.
As an oar-in commentator (in the broader sense), he has a lot of cricket experience though, and is always entertaining. In his overbearing, "spectrum" way.
Does this make me part of an exploitation process? Party to abuse? Hmmmm.
At the end of his bat. :-O
Yeah, you're right, of course.
As an oar-in commentator (in the broader sense), he has a lot of cricket experience though, and is always entertaining. In his overbearing, "spectrum" way.
Does this make me part of an exploitation process? Party to abuse? Hmmmm.
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PeterCS wrote:Maybe she did fall again and again, in different places.
At the end of his bat. :-O
Yeah, you're right, of course.
As an oar-in commentator (in the broader sense), he has a lot of cricket experience though, and is always entertaining. In his overbearing, "spectrum" way.
Does this make me part of an exploitation process? Party to abuse? Hmmmm.
If you're listening, you're condoning .
In all seriousness, I'm not saying people aren't allowed indiscretions - I'm just saying that in this age of villification, it's surprising that he has got off scot-free.
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This is true too.
Vilas-Boas got vilified at the Bridge, and it wasn't good.
It even came from the top.
Vilas-Boas got vilified at the Bridge, and it wasn't good.
It even came from the top.
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This 10-item quiz about players (or their presence of mind) going AWOL has run aground, so here are the answers.
I'll repeat each basic clue - location and year - just in case anyone still wants a google-assisted or google-free go .....
Can you name a cricketer who .... :
F1. forgot his bat on the way to the crease? (Test)
(Wally got this one.)
F2. forgot his bat on the way back to the pavilion? (FC)
Taunton, 1930
F3. got lost in the toilets on the way out to bat? (T)
(Trike got this one.)
F4. got locked in a women's toilet before giving a speech at Lord's? (T)
(This one is an ex-player - it's not Warney btw)
Lord's, 1998
F5. got lost on the Underground on the way to the match? (FC)
The Oval, 1921
F6. missed the bus to the ground, and retired from all cricket the next day? (T)
Antigua, 2008
F7. as a Number 11 batsman in the last innings of the match, was timed out with the scores tied? (FC)
Taunton again, 1919
F8. was timed out when not in the same country as the match? (FC)
East London, 2002
F9. missed out on a FC career entirely through the intervention of rain?
Bristol, 1927
F10. missed out on a FC career after being twice timed out in a match?
Lord's again, 1908
I'll repeat each basic clue - location and year - just in case anyone still wants a google-assisted or google-free go .....
Can you name a cricketer who .... :
F1. forgot his bat on the way to the crease? (Test)
(Wally got this one.)
- Spoiler:
- Bob Willis v Pakistan, Egbaston 1982
F2. forgot his bat on the way back to the pavilion? (FC)
Taunton, 1930
- Spoiler:
- Cecil Case (Somerset) was so discombobulated by a bouncer from Bill Voce (Notts) that he toppled over and "hit wicket" - Aloo-style, it seems. In disarray, he picked himself up, tucked a stump under his arm and headed off back to the pavilion.
F3. got lost in the toilets on the way out to bat? (T)
(Trike got this one.)
- Spoiler:
- David Steele on debut, v Australia, Lord's 1975. Called up in England's hour of need (yes, another hour of need) to counter the mighty Sheila Lilian Thomson, he kept on going down the pavilion steps and found himself in the basement. Panicking, he just managed to beat the time-out.
F4. got locked in a women's toilet before giving a speech at Lord's? (T)
(This one is an ex-player - it's not Warney btw)
Lord's, 1998
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- The Chief executive of South African cricket, Ali Bacher, failed to make a planned speech in the President's Box at the 1998 Lord's Test because he had wandered off into the toilets - the ladies', as it happens - to learn off his notes, and found he had locked himself in.
F5. got lost on the Underground on the way to the match? (FC)
The Oval, 1921
- Spoiler:
- The Leicestershire keeper Tom Sidwell was 1* overnight going into the 26th August 1921. The Surrey captain Percy Fender refused to let him resume when he arrived late the next morning. So Sidwell went down in the scorebook as "absent, thought lost on the Tube" - killjoy recent scorecards have amended this to the dull formula "retired out".
Five years later to the day (26th Aug 1926), Sidwell scored a century against the same opposition at the same ground. No fairy tale though - this time Surrey won by 119 runs instead of 83.
Sidenote: in that 1926 match, 385.5 overs were bowled and 1357 runs scored within three days. Times have changed!
F6. missed the bus to the ground, and retired from all cricket the next day? (T)
Antigua, 2008
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- Stuart MacGill v West Indies, 31 May & I June. Though he did later take part in T20 bashes. Whether this constitutes a change of mind or not ....
F7. as a Number 11 batsman in the last innings of the match, was timed out with the scores tied? (FC)
Taunton again, 1919
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- http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/124532.html : "On May 22, 1919, Somerset's match against Sussex at Taunton was heading for a gripping climax. When Sussex's ninth second-innings wicket fell [in the last innings of the match], the scores were tied. Their No. 11, Harold Heygate, had not expected to bat as he was crippled with rheumatism, a complaint aggravated by his time in the trenches during the First World War. He had not batted or bowled in the match. As the crowd waited to see if Heygate would emerge from the pavilion [within the three minutes allowed], one of the Somerset players appealed and Heygate was given out. The match was tied, and Heygate's dismissal was subsequently upheld by MCC. [Recorded in the scorecard as "absent"].
Wisden, however, was distinctly unimpressed: "Whether or not Heygate would have crawled to the wicket, it was very unsportsmanlike that such a point should have been raised when there remained ample time to finish the match."
F8. was timed out when not in the same country as the match? (FC)
East London, 2002
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- On 27 Sept 2002, Vasbert Drakes, the West Indian fast bowler, is recorded as "timed out" for Border v Free State at East London: rather unfortunate as he wasn't even in the country at the time - his plane had been delayed and he was still waiting in or on the way from Sri Lanka.
F9. missed out on a FC career entirely through the intervention of rain?
Bristol, 1927
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- Sidney Wells was selected for Gloucestershire just one FC game, against Kent. Unfortunately, due to consistent rain, this happened: http://cricketarchive.comwww.cricketarchive.com/Gloucestershire/Scorecards/12/12496.html
I wonder if he was the father, uncle or something to the legendary "Bomber" Wells?
F10. missed out on a FC career after being twice timed out in a match?
Lord's again, 1908
- Spoiler:
My mistake here - he didn't even get the chance to be timed out a second time! Timed out once and never played again, by all accounts.
Thomas Hearne
A member of the famous Middlesex cricketing clan, Hearne received a late call-up to make his first-class debut against the touring Philadelphians at Lord's in 1908. But the match was all over on the first day - the Americans made 58 and 55, and Middlesex 92 and 24 for 3. Hearne is shown as "absent" in Middlesex's first innings, and ... it seems possible that he was not actually present at the ground at any time during the match. Since he never played again, he may well have missed his entire first-class career. (cricinfo) http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/567074.html
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This passage was no doubt assisted by a (lyrically-minded) ghostwriter.
But whose boyhood experiences does it describe?
SPOILER please ...
It is a beautiful place, especially in springtime, when the roads are bordered with flowers that have a strong perfume of violets, and the green terraces are luxuriant with crops. I have faint, childish memories, poignant as such recollections are, of these things; and much clearer memories of the first cricket I ever played, when I was eight or nine years old, in the brilliant Malta sunshine.
We used to chalk a wicket on the gun-shed door, being most careful to draw in immovable bails; our ball was an irregular object that looked like one of those ruins that Cromwell (who was a notable cricketer) knocked about a bit. It had not improved since. As for the bat, it was one discarded by the soldiers because of a smashed end; we sawed off the broken part, and found the extra-long handle even more effective with the shorter blade. To that bat I owe much. It taught me what I have since found to be one of the essentials of cricket - that the batsman should strike the ball, and not just pat it. In Malta, on the rough concrete, we thought small beer of any boy who did not strike out with the long-handled batkin; we knew that the bowler must be attacked and not merely warded off; and it did me the world of good to assimilate that lesson young.
But whose boyhood experiences does it describe?
SPOILER please ...
It is a beautiful place, especially in springtime, when the roads are bordered with flowers that have a strong perfume of violets, and the green terraces are luxuriant with crops. I have faint, childish memories, poignant as such recollections are, of these things; and much clearer memories of the first cricket I ever played, when I was eight or nine years old, in the brilliant Malta sunshine.
We used to chalk a wicket on the gun-shed door, being most careful to draw in immovable bails; our ball was an irregular object that looked like one of those ruins that Cromwell (who was a notable cricketer) knocked about a bit. It had not improved since. As for the bat, it was one discarded by the soldiers because of a smashed end; we sawed off the broken part, and found the extra-long handle even more effective with the shorter blade. To that bat I owe much. It taught me what I have since found to be one of the essentials of cricket - that the batsman should strike the ball, and not just pat it. In Malta, on the rough concrete, we thought small beer of any boy who did not strike out with the long-handled batkin; we knew that the bowler must be attacked and not merely warded off; and it did me the world of good to assimilate that lesson young.
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Indeed.
'Flowery' as it may be, the passage seems to provide quite an insight into his mind.
'Flowery' as it may be, the passage seems to provide quite an insight into his mind.
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- Written a quarter of a century later, it speaks of a batsman temperamentally orientated towards attack, self-willed, and uncomfortable with just hanging around. Hammond was noted for his beautiful strokeplay, notably his well-timed driving and cutting. It appears from the various accounts that defence was not his forte, and that he was at his weakest when tucked up and bottled up - a tactic the Aussie leggies employed with some success (with legside fields choking off his runs).
A mindset, it seems, partly formed by his earliest cricket years, with a bat that sounds like one of those 'Mongoose' things that was briefly touted for T20 (and perhaps rejected as it didn't allow for enough sweeps and slogs, and horribly-timed 4s and 6s?). And a clear desire to STRIKE the ball for glory, from the sweet spot.
Hammond came from an army family, hence Malta (and HK) as a young kid.
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I think Pete's Q's have all been answered. Apologies if not but here's one to think about.
What record do Saqlain Mushtaq and Vinoo Mankad hold?
What record do Saqlain Mushtaq and Vinoo Mankad hold?
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Is this something like
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- (twice?) conceding over 200 runs in one Test innings?
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It's exactly like that, Pete. No need for spoilers.
The only 2 bowlers to TWICE concede over 200 runs in a single Test innings.
5-228 MH Mankad WI v Ind Kingston 1952-53
3-202 MH Mankad Ind v WI Mumbai 1948-49
3-237 Saqlain Mushtaq SA v Pak Capetown 2002-03
1-204 Saqlain Mushtaq Pak v Ind Multan 2003-04
The only 2 bowlers to TWICE concede over 200 runs in a single Test innings.
5-228 MH Mankad WI v Ind Kingston 1952-53
3-202 MH Mankad Ind v WI Mumbai 1948-49
3-237 Saqlain Mushtaq SA v Pak Capetown 2002-03
1-204 Saqlain Mushtaq Pak v Ind Multan 2003-04
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Whose words are the following?
(Bonus point: In what year were they first published?)
SPOILER please ...!
"Feelings were too heated at the time to permit calm discussion. A misguided nationalism obtruded itself with emphasis, and most people automatically ranged themselves behind their country. It was said on one side: An Englishman would not behave like this; the MCC side is obviously too good for the Australians, and therefore, the Australians must be squealers. It was said on the other: Australians have proved to the world their sportsmanship, in addition to their fighting qualities. If the Australians are objecting, the Englishmen must be doing something wrong.
As soon as that brick wall was built up, a wall of unyielding resistance, the sun of reason was overclouded and a solution became more and more remote.
Followed a period of quick appeasement and reconciliation. A concerted hush-hush policy on the part of the Marylebone Cricket Club and the Australian Board of Control (its many critics called this the Board of No Control at the time) bundled the issue from the public gaze.
[... However,] you do not really settle a controversy by locking it up in a cupboard like a family skeleton. It can be settled only by stating the facts without passion, and allowing informed judgement to decide what lessons are to be learned from them."
(Bonus point: In what year were they first published?)
SPOILER please ...!
"Feelings were too heated at the time to permit calm discussion. A misguided nationalism obtruded itself with emphasis, and most people automatically ranged themselves behind their country. It was said on one side: An Englishman would not behave like this; the MCC side is obviously too good for the Australians, and therefore, the Australians must be squealers. It was said on the other: Australians have proved to the world their sportsmanship, in addition to their fighting qualities. If the Australians are objecting, the Englishmen must be doing something wrong.
As soon as that brick wall was built up, a wall of unyielding resistance, the sun of reason was overclouded and a solution became more and more remote.
Followed a period of quick appeasement and reconciliation. A concerted hush-hush policy on the part of the Marylebone Cricket Club and the Australian Board of Control (its many critics called this the Board of No Control at the time) bundled the issue from the public gaze.
[... However,] you do not really settle a controversy by locking it up in a cupboard like a family skeleton. It can be settled only by stating the facts without passion, and allowing informed judgement to decide what lessons are to be learned from them."
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