Re: England v Australia, 3rd Test, Edgbaston, 29 July - 3 August, 2015

by Brass Monkey Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:03

Lindsay no.2 wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:...or you can see it that we could leave our guts on the wicket any single innings we play in, just like Lord's II. The pitch doesn't matter, we'll still be crushed.

A repeat of Lord's II is certainly not out of the equation.

But as much as that was chicken shittery of the highest order it was also due to the match situation - gazillions behind, not a great chance of saving the game and the only real batsman with the gumption (potentially) to hang in there got out early due to battle fatigue.

If similar circumstances arise then yep it's probably a dead cert.

Meh - it's not the first time - we've done such in much better match situations.

by taipan Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:07

Poms edging ahead in the doom mongering stakes. Will horrie be fit for test 4, the Aussies are missing him badly.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:09

They just need to cool it a tiny bit. The pitch isn't doing anything, they've got through Johnson's spell.

Milk it.

Don't throw it away with OTT cavalier shit.

by Red Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:11

Ali is certainly having fun. Clarke is looking a bit bemused and confused atm.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:12

Brass Monkey wrote:
Lindsay no.2 wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:...or you can see it that we could leave our guts on the wicket any single innings we play in, just like Lord's II. The pitch doesn't matter, we'll still be crushed.

A repeat of Lord's II is certainly not out of the equation.

But as much as that was chicken shittery of the highest order it was also due to the match situation - gazillions behind, not a great chance of saving the game and the only real batsman with the gumption (potentially) to hang in there got out early due to battle fatigue.

If similar circumstances arise then yep it's probably a dead cert.

Meh - it's not the first time - we've done such in much better match situations.

True - we've got the ability (if that is the right term in this context) to capitulate at the first sign of anything we don't know - pace, spin, a horrible bloke in row 26 who slated Bell.

But I don't think we're likely to do that 4 innings on the trot (excluding our inevitable 2nd innings collapse here when chasing a target of 120 and going from 65-1 to 93 all out).

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:13

It must be an OK pitch to bat - Broad is still in.

Must keep at it boys as I think Aus 2nd innings could be a biggie.

by Red Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:14

Broad chucks it away.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:14

And with that...good grief.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:15

Has anyone got any discipline at all?

Really?

Come on FFS - yet another soft as shite dismissal.

by Brass Monkey Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:15

Lindsay no.2 wrote:They just need to cool it a tiny bit. The pitch isn't doing anything, they've got through Johnson's spell.

Milk it.

Don't throw it away with OTT cavalier shit.

Hello - meet Sturat Broad.

by taipan Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:15

Useful knock in the context of the game.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:16

Brass Monkey wrote:
Lindsay no.2 wrote:They just need to cool it a tiny bit. The pitch isn't doing anything, they've got through Johnson's spell.

Milk it.

Don't throw it away with OTT cavalier shit.

Hello - meet Sturat Broad.

Heehee.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:19

taipan wrote:Useful knock in the context of the game.

Could look at it way (and given his previous form that adds weight to that point of view).

Equally, could say he was nicely in, he was in no immediate peril and was playing within his means - and should therefore have continued to play in that fashion.

Another 40 or 50 runs in that partnership should have been do-able.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:20

Oh just f*ck off England.

That's bullshit.

by taipan Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:20

Lindsay no.2 wrote:
taipan wrote:Useful knock in the context of the game.

Could look at it way (and given his previous form that adds weight to that point of view).

Equally, could say he was nicely in, he was in no immediate peril and was playing within his means - and should therefore have continued to play in that fashion.

Another 40 or 50 runs in that partnership should have been do-able.

I think most poms would have taken that when he walked in.

by Brass Monkey Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:22

*sighs* Moeen attempts to go Napeshit. Instead he went Nopeshit. 278ao, no doubts.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:27

As if to prove that throwing away a great position at 132-2 wasn't a fluke we've just done it again. High fives all round in the England dressing room. Ramps get yourself a cuppa and a pack of biccies - job well done again chief.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:28

taipan wrote:
Lindsay no.2 wrote:
taipan wrote:Useful knock in the context of the game.

Could look at it way (and given his previous form that adds weight to that point of view).

Equally, could say he was nicely in, he was in no immediate peril and was playing within his means - and should therefore have continued to play in that fashion.

Another 40 or 50 runs in that partnership should have been do-able.

I think most poms would have taken that when he walked in.

Yes - that's a fair point.

But given how seemingly easy they were making it look you then have the option to revise your judgment, or not if you're Broad and Ali.

by Brass Monkey Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:29

That was bullshit. Handy lead, yes. But there seems to be as many demons in the pitch as a Furby convention. The sort of situation that Warner can tear up. We have to be right on the money, moreso than yesterday.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:34

Brass Monkey wrote:That was bullshit. Handy lead, yes. But there seems to be as many demons in the pitch as a Furby convention. The sort of situation that Warner can tear up. We have to be right on the money, moreso than yesterday.

Aye boss you're not wrong.

Should have got another 40 runs minimum.

Warner and Smith are the keys again - as we've given up on getting Rogers out.

Bowling needs to be sharp otherwise that lead will evaporate rapidly and then we'll crap it big time.

by Fred Nerk Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:35

145 is still a pretty handy lead when the other mob couldn't scrape up that many last time

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:36

3rd innings of the match - midway through day 2.

Madness.

by Red Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:40

Yes the England tail was a tad profligate.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:43

Fred Nerk wrote:145 is still a pretty handy lead when the other mob couldn't scrape up that many last time

Yep - but handy should have been made closer to unassailable.

Aus didn't bat wonderfully - some of them chucked it away but we did also get a few of them out with good balls.

We had 4 who got in, were playing fluently and gave their wickets away - Bell, Root, Ali, Broad. You'd have hoped that at least 1 of them would have gone on to score a ton. That carelessness could come back to hurt us.

by Lindsay no.2 Thu 30 Jul 2015, 14:50

Tried for a Watson. Too slow.

Lucky he didn't as that looked to be killing the stumps.

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