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Post by furriner Tue 15 Jan 2008, 22:57

Now then, Clickety
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Post by tac Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:00

David Sales also says he'd like to play for England . . . it ain't gonna happen . . .
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Post by JKLever Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:03

Nobody who has represented another country in a full international for another country will play for England.
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Post by Makaveli Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:03

The guy is finished, he's no longer good enough for county cricket let alone international, plus Monty is better.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:30

Mak - I think that's a bit unfair.

Saqlain played 4 matches for Surrey last season and took 18 wickets at an average of 17.55, with a best of 5-96. That's 4.5 wickets per match, making him one of the best bowlers in the first division.

To say he's not good enough for county cricket is daft, mate.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:31

But, as Lever says, he won't play for England. Not in a million years.

He needs to do something about that ridiculous beard though.
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Post by Makaveli Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:33

I'm sure if he played the whole season that would change, check his stats for the last few times he played a full season, plus his knees have gone, breaks down too often.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 15 Jan 2008, 23:35

That's a quarter of a season. It's a big enough sample size to show that he is good enough for county cricket. The reason his stats haven't been that good is because he keeps breaking down. But that's a different issue. It doesn't mean he's not good enough, it means he keeps breaking down and losing any sort of match practice and fitness.
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Post by leg glancer Wed 16 Jan 2008, 12:29

Makaveli wrote:plus his knees have gone, breaks down too often.

Such a shame, he really should have played a lot more international cricket than he did. He was an absolute genius in his prime.
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Post by Batman Wed 16 Jan 2008, 12:33

leg glancer wrote:
Makaveli wrote:plus his knees have gone, breaks down too often.

Such a shame, he really should have played a lot more international cricket than he did. He was an absolute genius in his prime.

How come he stopped playing for Pakistan? Exactly what went wrong? It seems he stopped playing internationals for Pak quite early in age.
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Post by doremi Wed 16 Jan 2008, 12:34

Always thought he was a bit over-rated.
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Post by Henry Wed 16 Jan 2008, 13:36

He was the pioneer of the doosra, but he got carried away with it. A bit like Harbhajan has done in recent times. Forgot that his main delivery was the off spinner pitching outside off stump and spinning in to the right hander, and he started to bowl too quick for tests as well.
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Post by embee Wed 16 Jan 2008, 13:41

Henry wrote:He was the pioneer of the doosra, but he got carried away with it. A bit like Harbhajan has done in recent times. Forgot that his main delivery was the off spinner pitching outside off stump and spinning in to the right hander, and he started to bowl too quick for tests as well.

plus Trev started a thread titled "Saqlain ...His time has come in Test Cricket" in whicjh he said he reminded him of a modern day Jim Laker
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Post by The One Wed 16 Jan 2008, 15:00

leg glancer wrote:
Makaveli wrote:plus his knees have gone, breaks down too often.

Such a shame, he really should have played a lot more international cricket than he did. He was an absolute genius in his prime.

genius until people started picking the doosra. the doosra was the prime reason for his success, and once people knew how to play it, his downfall

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Post by Anniyan Wed 16 Jan 2008, 15:10

He was also rattled easily. In the test series in Windies 2001? he was "sledged" by Windies batsmen particularly by Hinds and saqui looked like he was going to burst in to tears in any minute. Shame Pak lost the test which they should've won.
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Post by The One Wed 16 Jan 2008, 15:13

well that was more thanks to the ump than saqi's fault. atrocious umpiring in the last innings

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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 16 Jan 2008, 21:07

I don't think he was found out. He took 14 wickets at 30 vs Aus just a year before his last Test. Then he had one poor series against South Africa and then got injured, came back and was tonked in one Test against India, the world's best players of spin. He had little match practice and was expected to produce miracles on his first match back against India. One bad series and one bad Test due to severe injury doesn't mean you've been worked out.

He did overuse his doosra towards the end but I reject the notion that he was worked out and somehow rubbish. Injuries wrecked his career, not anything else.
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Post by spangler Wed 16 Jan 2008, 22:22

Statistics don't tell the story of the utter gash he was bowling towards the end of his test career. He was worked out and he turned into a darter and not an off spinner.
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Post by horace Wed 16 Jan 2008, 22:46

spangler wrote:Statistics don't tell the story of the utter gash he was bowling towards the end of his test career. He was worked out and he turned into a darter and not an off spinner.


on that basis Saqi is well placed to be the closest thing England has had to a quality spinner for a long time bounce bounce
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Post by Basil Thu 17 Jan 2008, 01:10

He. Will. Not. Play. For. England. - Something to do with him having played for Pakistan maybe?
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Post by horace Thu 17 Jan 2008, 01:36

not ineligible....slaw is now eligible methinks
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Post by Basil Thu 17 Jan 2008, 01:46

horace wrote:not ineligible....slaw is now eligible methinks

Maybe eligible - still doesn't mean he will be picked.
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Post by LeFromage Thu 17 Jan 2008, 02:31

Basil wrote:
horace wrote:not ineligible....slaw is now eligible methinks

Maybe eligible - still doesn't mean he will be picked.

Slaw is eligible for England as a result of living here long enough to qualify through residence.

Saqlain "...has a British passport through his marriage and qualifies in April as he begins another season with Surrey." (cricinfo)

Neither will be picked, I wouldn't have thought.
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Post by embee Thu 17 Jan 2008, 02:37

Does Slaw playing beach cricket for Australia affect his English qualification?

http://www.xxxxgoldbeachcricket.com.au/Events/Team-Player-Profiles.aspx
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Post by horace Thu 17 Jan 2008, 02:54

embee wrote:Does Slaw playing beach cricket for Australia affect his English qualification?

http://www.xxxxgoldbeachcricket.com.au/Events/Team-Player-Profiles.aspx

ROFL...it is disgrace that he is playing at all...
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