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Trevor Bayliss is an overrated coach- Discuss
Well?
What's he actually done apart from preside over the complete and utter failure of our "long" batting lineup? Vince, Ballance, Hales, and Duckett have all bombed disastrously on Bayliss's watch. On-tour selections (of which Bayliss has a big say) have been a bit of a shambles as well. Do we have ANY idea what our best side is? Do our batsmen have ANY idea what approach they should be taking to the crease? One one hand, Bayliss seems to want attack, attack, attack, yet on the other hand, England's batsmen are being told they should get their heads down and grind out scores. No wonder they're confused.....
I'd like to suggest that Bayliss actually ain't all that crash-hot as a coach.
What's he actually done apart from preside over the complete and utter failure of our "long" batting lineup? Vince, Ballance, Hales, and Duckett have all bombed disastrously on Bayliss's watch. On-tour selections (of which Bayliss has a big say) have been a bit of a shambles as well. Do we have ANY idea what our best side is? Do our batsmen have ANY idea what approach they should be taking to the crease? One one hand, Bayliss seems to want attack, attack, attack, yet on the other hand, England's batsmen are being told they should get their heads down and grind out scores. No wonder they're confused.....
I'd like to suggest that Bayliss actually ain't all that crash-hot as a coach.
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He is nowhere near the class of Allister Coetzee.
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What happens if England win the next two tests?
Can we safely disregard this thread? I'll jump on the bandwagon if England go 4-0 down without a whimper.
Can we safely disregard this thread? I'll jump on the bandwagon if England go 4-0 down without a whimper.
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Well he is from dubberland, so what would you expect.
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[Crappelli][/Crappelli]
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skully wrote:[Crappelli][/Crappelli]
Mourinho?
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I'll trump skulls nom with glawson.
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Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
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Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.
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TGM famously agrees with Chappelli, other than himself - an exception that would prove the rule.
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Big Dog wrote:Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.
Would agree for cricket. Rugby is a different matter.
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Some coaches may have been a bad influence -I Doubt TB is one of those.
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taipan wrote:Big Dog wrote:Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.
Would agree for cricket. Rugby is a different matter.
I was referring to Cricket. Obviously Rugby is a different kettle of fish.
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Big Dog wrote:taipan wrote:Big Dog wrote:Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.
Would agree for cricket. Rugby is a different matter.
I was referring to Cricket. Obviously Rugby is a different kettle of fish.
I agree, hence my Coetzee comment above.
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wonder what Mudge thinks now
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Now replaced by Chris Silverwood.
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Aah ..... The silverfish.
He has a hard act to follow
He has a hard act to follow
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lardbucket wrote:Now replaced by Chris Silverwood.
Supposedly played six tests but i don't recall the name at all.
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I remember he was one of many Pom quicks tried against our batting juggernaut in the late 90s.
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Medium dobber iirc.
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Perhaps unsurprising they went English, but I suspect with no international coaching experience he’s likely to be another Moores. Hopefully we won’t get a bunch of overpromoted Chav dobbers in the side.
I’d have split the role between Tests and white ball formats and picked specialists with relevant track records for each.
I’d have split the role between Tests and white ball formats and picked specialists with relevant track records for each.
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He’s in the King of Spain’s back pocket. Nasser rates him.
So two strikes down already
So two strikes down already
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Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
In Oz we have reverted to Simpson classic-
Blame the players when the Coach and NSP are underperforming.
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horrie will love the Spoons highlight Cricket Aus is showing on their Facebook page
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I think horrie might have seen it and posted as 'rick Dunas,' in the comments section.
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