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Post by Henry Thu 01 Dec 2016, 13:10

Well?

What's he actually done apart from preside over the complete and utter failure of our "long" batting lineup? Vince, Ballance, Hales, and Duckett have all bombed disastrously on Bayliss's watch. On-tour selections (of which Bayliss has a big say) have been a bit of a shambles as well. Do we have ANY idea what our best side is? Do our batsmen have ANY idea what approach they should be taking to the crease? One one hand, Bayliss seems to want attack, attack, attack, yet on the other hand, England's batsmen are being told they should get their heads down and grind out scores. No wonder they're confused.....

I'd like to suggest that Bayliss actually ain't all that crash-hot as a coach.
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Post by taipan Thu 01 Dec 2016, 13:14

He is nowhere near the class of Allister Coetzee.
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Post by DJ_Smerk Thu 01 Dec 2016, 15:00

What happens if England win the next two tests?

Can we safely disregard this thread? I'll jump on the bandwagon if England go 4-0 down without a whimper.

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Post by horace Thu 01 Dec 2016, 19:46

Well he is from dubberland, so what would you expect.
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Post by skully Thu 01 Dec 2016, 21:33

[Crappelli]Trevor Bayliss is an overrated coach- Discuss MICCOACH[/Crappelli]
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Post by DJ_Smerk Thu 01 Dec 2016, 21:41

skully wrote:[Crappelli]Trevor Bayliss is an overrated coach- Discuss MICCOACH[/Crappelli]

Mourinho?
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Post by horace Fri 02 Dec 2016, 04:26

I'll trump skulls nom with glawson.
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Post by Basil Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:18

Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.
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Post by Big Dog Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:23

Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.

Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.
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Post by horace Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:35

TGM famously agrees with Chappelli, other than himself - an exception that would prove the rule.
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Post by taipan Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:38

Big Dog wrote:
Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.

Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.

Would agree for cricket. Rugby is a different matter.
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Post by horace Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:39

Some coaches may have been a bad influence -I Doubt TB is one of those.
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Post by Big Dog Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:45

taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.

Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.

Would agree for cricket. Rugby is a different matter.

I was referring to Cricket. Obviously Rugby is a different kettle of fish.
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Post by taipan Fri 02 Dec 2016, 07:47

Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.

Was thinking much the same. The role of coaches is very much overstated these days. By the time you get selected for national duties, you should'nt really need a coach.

Would agree for cricket. Rugby is a different matter.

I was referring to Cricket. Obviously Rugby is a different kettle of fish.

I agree, hence my Coetzee comment above.
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Post by horace Wed 21 Dec 2016, 08:32

wonder what Mudge thinks now












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Post by lardbucket Mon 07 Oct 2019, 21:11

Now replaced by Chris Silverwood.

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Post by horace Tue 08 Oct 2019, 05:52

Aah ..... The silverfish.

He has a hard act to follow
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Post by Big Dog Tue 08 Oct 2019, 06:14

lardbucket wrote:Now replaced by Chris Silverwood.

Supposedly played six tests but i don't recall the name at all. scratch
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Post by skully Tue 08 Oct 2019, 07:27

I remember he was one of many Pom quicks tried against our batting juggernaut in the late 90s.
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Post by horace Tue 08 Oct 2019, 09:39

Medium dobber iirc.
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Post by beamer Tue 08 Oct 2019, 09:52

Perhaps unsurprising they went English, but I suspect with no international coaching experience he’s likely to be another Moores. Hopefully we won’t get a bunch of overpromoted Chav dobbers in the side.

I’d have split the role between Tests and white ball formats and picked specialists with relevant track records for each.

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Post by taipan Tue 08 Oct 2019, 17:28

He’s in the King of Spain’s back pocket. Nasser rates him.

So two strikes down already
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Post by horace Wed 09 Oct 2019, 13:16

Basil wrote:Ah, the classic blame-the-coach-when-the-players-underperform schtick.

In Oz we have reverted to Simpson classic-

Blame the players when the Coach and NSP are underperforming.
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Post by embee Wed 09 Oct 2019, 15:12

horrie will love the Spoons highlight Cricket Aus is showing on their Facebook page

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Post by Bradman Wed 09 Oct 2019, 15:27

I think horrie might have seen it and posted as 'rick Dunas,' in the comments section.
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