England v Australia, 3rd Test, Headingley, 22-26 August, 2019

Excellent bowling though.

And Warner has redeemed his earlier misdemeanours (well, batting and fielding) with some great snatches.

England batting? Well, a furri comment would be enough.

Have to bowl them out for sub-50 to have any chance. It’s not completely impossible.

tricycle wrote:England 2015 onwards in tests looks basically like England up to 2015 in ODIs.

I blame Brexit and Wilberforce.

POC gawn!

beamer wrote:Not only go as captain, he needs dropping/resting for the remainder of the summer and perhaps the winter.

You could say that about pretty much every player in the top seven. No one looks in form except for perhaps Stokes and Burns. And Stokes played a terrible, tired shot today.

Henry wrote:

beamer wrote:Not only go as captain, he needs dropping/resting for the remainder of the summer and perhaps the winter.

You could say that about pretty much every player in the top seven. No one looks in form except for perhaps Stokes and Burns. And Stokes played a terrible, tired shot today.

What England would do for I Ronald Bell.

Henry wrote:

beamer wrote:Not only go as captain, he needs dropping/resting for the remainder of the summer and perhaps the winter.

You could say that about pretty much every player in the top seven. No one looks in form except for perhaps Stokes and Burns. And Stokes played a terrible, tired shot today.

Presumably a big clearout is on the cards once the Ashes are gone? Forget the fact we could theoretically draw the series.

The amount he's bowling, he'll be called jofra stress fracture before long.

beamer wrote:

Henry wrote:

beamer wrote:Not only go as captain, he needs dropping/resting for the remainder of the summer and perhaps the winter.

You could say that about pretty much every player in the top seven. No one looks in form except for perhaps Stokes and Burns. And Stokes played a terrible, tired shot today.

Presumably a big clearout is on the cards once the Ashes are gone? Forget the fact we could theoretically draw the series.

This is England, remember. They’ll claim “confidence is the players picked to turn things around.”

There will probably be one change........it’s a shame. I thought Ed Smith might be a very good selector, but he’s basically just picked the ODI side for tests, give or take a Burns or Jennings........

beamer wrote:

Henry wrote:

beamer wrote:Not only go as captain, he needs dropping/resting for the remainder of the summer and perhaps the winter.

You could say that about pretty much every player in the top seven. No one looks in form except for perhaps Stokes and Burns. And Stokes played a terrible, tired shot today.

Presumably a big clearout is on the cards once the Ashes are gone? Forget the fact we could theoretically draw the series.

Well, thankfully we lose Bayliss automatically. So that's a scintilla.

If there's any sense of decency, Ed Smith should be considering his position before too long, also. Yes, I know he's new. But what has he added?

tricycle wrote:The amount he's bowling, he'll be called jofra stress fracture before long.

Jofra Laugh.

I still maintain if they picked the ODI side and told them to just go out there and get 300 off 50 overs, rather than being caught between two approaches, it might come off a lot of the time.

Well, let's put it this way. It couldn't go worse than this current pile.

Paine knows the Rights of Man, he can call them in now. Oz have enough.

So - regardless of the result here - who makes way for Smith, who makes way for Starc?

Between Wade and Head on the former, I guess. On the latter: nobody needed.

Looks like Archer will be used in short bursts. Hope he is not nursing an injury.

Harris gone... cursed by Embee's nickname..had looked good.

lardbucket wrote:So - regardless of the result here - who makes way for Smith, who makes way for Starc?

Roy and Denly? We’ll throw in Northern Ireland as well to make it a fair deal

PeterCS wrote:

beamer wrote:

Henry wrote:

beamer wrote:Not only go as captain, he needs dropping/resting for the remainder of the summer and perhaps the winter.

You could say that about pretty much every player in the top seven. No one looks in form except for perhaps Stokes and Burns. And Stokes played a terrible, tired shot today.

Presumably a big clearout is on the cards once the Ashes are gone? Forget the fact we could theoretically draw the series.

Well, thankfully we lose Bayliss automatically. So that's a scintilla.

If there's any sense of decency, Ed Smith should be considering his position before too long, also. Yes, I know he's new. But what has he added?

I liked his early selections. Buttler and Rashid at the time seemed like bold, nerveless selections that were based around talent and potential rather than weight of county performances.

Problem seems to be that Root and Bayliss see, to be in very different wavelengths. I expect more to come out about it this once Bayliss finishes at the end of the summer. From what I can gather they see things very differently, but ultimately Bayliss let’s Root have the final say with pretty much everything. This means Bairstow instead of Foakes keeping, Roy opening instead of down the order, Moeen for a couple of tests too many when Leach was bowling well....these are all Root decisions, all Root ‘instincts and feelings’....... None of them have come off. He should be held accountable.

Bayliss will probably go after this Test, as may Root.

We might as well wrap Joffrey in cotton wool until NZ...

beamer wrote:Bayliss will probably go after this Test, as may Root.

We might as well wrap Joffrey in cotton wool until NZ...

You mean wrap him in cotton wool until we can find a captain with half a clue about managing his bowlers?

Root has enough credit in the tank to stay on, yet.

Who'd captain if they did drop him? Surely not Stokes?

lardbucket wrote:Root has enough credit in the tank to stay on, yet.

Who'd captain if they did drop him? Surely not Stokes?

Rory Burns led Surrey to the county championship a couple of years ago.

lardbucket wrote:So - regardless of the result here - who makes way for Smith, who makes way for Starc?

1) Khawaja, for mine.