Tendulkar breaks Bradman's record!!!!

Josh Carney wrote:For official recognition the "white man" had to stamp it. .

Maybe that is something Dello could look at re-introducing

Josh Carney wrote:

HH_pink wrote:That 'Indian belittles Indian' is indeed true.

That is because a fair few cannot get over their regional, ethnic or caste based roots and identify themselves with this larger entity namely "India".

hmmn we have something of this phenomena in aust....Qldrs are more concerned with perceived slights on their intelligence and character to fully identify with Aust. west Ozzies are geographically isolated and many harbor ambitions independence from E Oz...this may become magnified as the minerals boom continues

tac wrote:Indeed, Pinky. But most countries have a fair share of dickheads who inhabit the demi-world of message boards, where they can enjoy abusing people in anonymity.

Only, India seems to have more of them because of the population. And the fact that the Chinese mostly don't post in English.

That will settle down. What we are going through is a surge of nationalism / parochialism etc. due to all the pent up colonial and other legacies where India was invaded by one and all. I expect all this to settle down and get more mature as the youth find purposeful jobs and get away from that mentality of wanting to "show the world".

horace wrote:

Josh Carney wrote:

HH_pink wrote:That 'Indian belittles Indian' is indeed true.

That is because a fair few cannot get over their regional, ethnic or caste based roots and identify themselves with this larger entity namely "India".

hmmn we have something of this phenomena in aust....Qldrs are more concerned with perceived slights on their intelligence and character to fully identify with Aust. west Ozzies are geographically isolated and many harbor ambitions independence from E Oz...this may become magnified as the minerals boom continues

Should've warned you Josh - posting anything like "caste" triggers off a series of unwanted and undesirable reactions at the cellular and molecular level.

HH probably wrote that article.

Some sensible discussion going on in this thread. Wonder how long before it gets trivial or becomes a trollathon.

Too late, LLL has just appeared.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:HH probably wrote that article.

No way! You've got to be kidding me. I think Vawn pwns Tendulkar.

horace wrote:

Josh Carney wrote:

HH_pink wrote:That 'Indian belittles Indian' is indeed true.

That is because a fair few cannot get over their regional, ethnic or caste based roots and identify themselves with this larger entity namely "India".

hmmn we have something of this phenomena in aust....Qldrs are more concerned with perceived slights on their intelligence and character to fully identify with Aust. west Ozzies are geographically isolated and many harbor ambitions independence from E Oz...this may become magnified as the minerals boom continues

The Western Australian isolation / mentality, Is that more due to the population in that part of Australia being different in orgin to the eastern states ie. not the Irish / Anglo Saxon heritage ??

HH_pink wrote:

horace wrote:

Josh Carney wrote:

HH_pink wrote:That 'Indian belittles Indian' is indeed true.

That is because a fair few cannot get over their regional, ethnic or caste based roots and identify themselves with this larger entity namely "India".

hmmn we have something of this phenomena in aust....Qldrs are more concerned with perceived slights on their intelligence and character to fully identify with Aust. west Ozzies are geographically isolated and many harbor ambitions independence from E Oz...this may become magnified as the minerals boom continues

Should've warned you Josh - posting anything like "caste" triggers off a series of unwanted and undesirable reactions at the cellular and molecular level.

get a grip pinky..

some parts of australia do suffer from cultural and political insecurity...we also have a bit of the if it comes from overseas it must be better syndrome...we replaced one colonial master with a slavish obedience to US cultural norms and political positions...we have yet to fully realise our independence...the conundrum is to achieve indepence without going down the nationalistic road

Nuthin serious, horrie.

no worries pinkster

the point is serious tho for emerging nation states of how to avoid the rampant nationalism pitfalls that other cultures have slipped into

The best (but by far the most impractical) solution is to abolish the very concept of nation states.

Not sure that will fix the problem. Humans by nature want to identify themselves with something. You cannot take away that. Only very few are able to rise about that.
At primitive levels it is identification with genetic roots, then it could be soething wider like a race or a religion or city or a region.
I am OK with identifying with the concept of a nation since it is more secular than identifying a caste or race or religion which can be very divisisive.
As long as nationalism does not not degenerate into a situation like the causes for WW1 it is fine .

Why do you think the concept of identifying with a nation is better than, say, caste or race or religion? I mean, why are these more divisive? Because I'm not so sure of that at all.

we should just identify as being human beings

horace wrote:we should just identify as being human beings

phurt ...As if you are human

HH_pink wrote:Why do you think the concept of identifying with a nation is better than, say, caste or race or religion? I mean, why are these more divisive? Because I'm not so sure of that at all.

Any kind of identification that breeds self righteousness is dangerous. Religion, caste or race based alignments are more prone to that. As civilisation has evolved and the country demarkations have thinned with the formation of Euro etc. the identification to a country and here I mean a secular country has become less and less dangerous. Even now there are many countries identifying to them is actually a pseudo identification to a religion. They are dangerous.

The point is you cannot stop human beings from identifying with something, that is the nature of them. In which case I choose the least harmful one.

We all have to indentify with humanity and humanvalues that is fundamental to a civilised society. But we also need something more, come to think of it Why to you support the Indian team ? Also identifying to a Country will help to be law abiding citizens of that Country.

embee wrote:

horace wrote:we should just identify as being human beings

phurt ...As if you are human

horace has shown that it is possible for all nations, races, religions and castes to be be united.

Everyone hates him.

of course RD's inability to attract members of the human race is famous

....it seems that even horses are repelled by the misanthrope...horses believing that RD's face is a satirical reminder of their own posterior

and of course Embee the Hut has no good word to waste on anyone...

Josh Carney wrote:Thankfully with the up an coming youth of India who are born in a free Country with an increasing economic and internatinal stature this does not appear to be as important.

Surely it is the youth parading these stats?