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Post by taipan Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:15

Merlin wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .
Apology not required.
You got it right the first time.

Jealousy
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Post by tac Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:16

taipan wrote:
Merlin wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .
Apology not required.
You got it right the first time.

Jealousy

and massive NSR
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Post by Merlin Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:16

taipan wrote:
Merlin wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .
Apology not required.
You got it right the first time.

Jealousy
Aye, I'm consumed by it.

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Post by JKLever Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:17

taipan wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .

Lets face it, no pom will ever earn that accolade.

And why gods earth would a Pom want to be an 'honorary' squinty eyed nasal thing?
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Post by taipan Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:18

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .

Lets face it, no pom will ever earn that accolade.

And why gods earth would a Pom want to be an 'honorary' squinty eyed nasal thing?

Cos you are all totally humourless.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:18

taipan wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .

Lets face it, no pom will ever earn that accolade.

Not even Peter Roebuck?!
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Post by tac Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:19

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .

Lets face it, no pom will ever earn that accolade.

And why gods earth would a Pom want to be an 'honorary' squinty eyed nasal thing?

Phurt, you already are squinty-eyed nasal things . . . just not honorary
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Post by JKLever Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:20

Gary 111 wrote:
taipan wrote:
tac wrote:Sorry, that should be "honorary" . . .

Lets face it, no pom will ever earn that accolade.

Not even Peter Roebuck?!

Yes but they've made Roebuck do things no normal human being should be put through.
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Post by JKLever Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:22

taipan wrote:

Cos you are all totally humourless.

Thats a fair point.

We can't all aspire to be Kath & Kim
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Post by Chivalry Augustus Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:30

Twenty20's an enjoyable snack between meals. Good bowlers will still take wickets in any format, although that's not necessarily true of batsman in Twenty20; powerful or innovative batsman are equally likely to succeed on these flat pitches as the talented ones. Still, it's cricket, although slightly indecent. You've got to say that it's good for the English counties, who are essentially relying on the income from Twenty20 for survival nowadays.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:31

Geoffrey Trueman wrote:
doctorspin wrote:It is advantageous that young kids can be taken along to a game and see the whole game after school. Really young kids are not going to be able to concentrate for a whole day's cricket, but can follow a T20 match. If this encourages more into the game then great. Whether it will turn them off Test cricket remains to be seen. But I suspect if they are interested enough to play they will enjoy the long form as well.

For me this is the best thing about 20/20. My son is very young and enjoys playing the game, but like most kids he has the attention span of an amoeba and gets bored watching 'proper' cricket. The fact 20/20 is 'Mickey Mouse' cricket should be ignored, if it gets kids interested and playing the game then bring it on.

People seem to be concerned about technique and how youngsters will want to play the game. Sure, at 8, 9 and 10 they all want to knock the casing off the ball, but the format of junior cricket in England decrees that you look after your wicket. You'd be amazed the effect losing 5 and 8 runs per wicket has on a youngsters technique. That coupled with the coaching provided by their club soon put's them on the right path. Having seen it at first hand I'm pleased to announce the future of 'proper' cricket is in safe hands.

My two penneth is that I agree with the "20/20 good for the yoof" attitude. Earlier this year my club hired out a double decker bus to go to Headingley for a 20-20 match packed out with juniors and their parents. The ground was packed with lots more youngsters - its certainly doing more than County Cricket is for a start.

If you get to see these professionals playing in front of big crowds it inspires you. Cricket can't hope to compete with football for publicity and all that media sh!te that goes with it but there's no reason why people can't play both and we can't get more and more people back out in their back garden / local club just playing for fun.

In England (outside of the private schools) cricket is fading away in schools with facilities declining but at the same time I think clubs are making more and more of an effort. My local area is covered with club teams and many have great new facilities (all weather nets, improved pitches & pavilions) due to lottery funding and private backing. So clubs are taking over in producing good young players and passing them over to the county junior teams - (i don't know for sure but I take it the likes of Flintoff, Anderson, Vaughan, Hoggard, etc all started mainly through local clubs rather than their schools). My club certainly has a lot more juniors now and people involved and interested than when I was a junior player. And rather than playing with a tennis ball / windball and a bin on the outfield they now have two outdoor all-weather nets to practice in.
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:41

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:

Cos you are all totally humourless.

Thats a fair point.

We can't all aspire to be Kath & Kim

Laughing Laughing Sweet.....
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Post by Merlin Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:43

I agree with just about everything you said Gaz, as I see the same here in my neck of the woods.

Other than in private schools or local clubs, cricket facililities have been stripped to practically nothing in all other areas during the Blair years, as the game was regarded as too "toffee nosed" for state schools. A senior headmaster of the local comprehensive, who is a member of my club, bears this fact out. Funding for cricket from local authorities was culled ...to the point where our club passed on hand-me-down kit to the school in order to keep the cricket dream alive.

We too have a strong bedrock of colts, 45 at the last count - starting from 10 y.o. upwards ... and thus far have, since 2002, groomed 3 to minor county standard - one of whom is now in talks with Middlesex. As we are a village club, the better youngsters naturally do move on to play for the bigger local clubs in a higher standard league ... but it's nice to know they were helped along the way.

Fact is, all 3 lads who made the grade went to local comprehensive schools.

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Post by Invader Zim Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:48

Batfink Begins wrote:Spin, a quality post. Expect some blithering bullshizzle from Timbo the chippy Wozzie.
WTF? He's posted a sensible post expressing an opinion (that doesn't differ all the much from my own), and did it all without name calling. Why would I object to that?
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Post by tac Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:50

Augustus wrote:Twenty20's an enjoyable snack between meals. Good bowlers will still take wickets in any format, although that's not necessarily true of batsman in Twenty20; powerful or innovative batsman are equally likely to succeed on these flat pitches as the talented ones. Still, it's cricket, although slightly indecent. You've got to say that it's good for the English counties, who are essentially relying on the income from Twenty20 for survival nowadays.

Are you County Player?
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:51

Invader Zim wrote:
WTF? He's posted a sensible post expressing an opinion (that doesn't differ all the much from my own), and did it all without name calling. Why would I object to that?

That barely ever means sh!t to you, you're obviously on anti-obnoxious pills today. Keep going.
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Post by doctorspin Wed 12 Sep 2007, 12:56

Merlin wrote:Other than in private schools or local clubs, cricket facililities have been stripped to practically nothing in all other areas during the Blair years, as the game was regarded as too "toffee nosed" for state schools. A senior headmaster of the local comprehensive, who is a member of my club, bears this fact out. Funding for cricket from local authorities was culled ...to the point where our club passed on hand-me-down kit to the school in order to keep the cricket dream alive.

Which makes his opportunistic basking in the Ashes 2005 glory all the more galling.

Seems his focus group advising him on what was popular on the "street" got that one wrong if they dissed cricket.

Farking cockjuggling bullshizzler
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Post by JKLever Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:01

doctorspin wrote:

Farking cockjuggling bullshizzler

Tis amazing what forumming can do for your vocab.

I now use the word Sage all the time, and I can see bullshizzler being the next
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:02

People have to stop using my phrases... they'll lose all meaning!!!!! All meaning.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:02

Merlin wrote:

Other than in private schools or local clubs, cricket facililities have been stripped to practically nothing in all other areas during the Blair years, as the game was regarded as too "toffee nosed" for state schools. A senior headmaster of the local comprehensive, who is a member of my club, bears this fact out. Funding for cricket from local authorities was culled ...to the point where our club passed on hand-me-down kit to the school in order to keep the cricket dream alive.


Harsh isn't it.

First Maggie takes their milk, then Blair robs them of cricket. If Brown finds a way of cutting off their supply of recreational drugs there be nothing left to go to school for.
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Post by tac Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:02

JKLever wrote:
doctorspin wrote:

Farking cockjuggling bullshizzler

Tis amazing what forumming can do for your vocab.

I now use the word Sage all the time, and I can see bullshizzler being the next

cockjuggling has always been part of your repetoire . . .
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Post by tac Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:03

Sorry, I meant vocabulary . . . I think . . .
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Post by skully Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:05

Some good ol' English passion be expressed this balmy Aus evening, and all in the name of the great game. Huzzah.
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Post by JKLever Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:08

tac wrote:
JKLever wrote:
doctorspin wrote:

Farking cockjuggling bullshizzler

Tis amazing what forumming can do for your vocab.

I now use the word Sage all the time, and I can see bullshizzler being the next

cockjuggling has always been part of your repetoire . . .

Strange, I thought you were the one who liked to PM people about cock size.
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 12 Sep 2007, 13:09

JKLever wrote:Strange, I thought you were the one who liked to PM people about cock size.

Laughing S'what I thought too!
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