The Corky verdict...
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The Corky verdict...
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1126121770/bctid1473768236
He's a bit of a tool, but I quite like his lack of fence-sitting. Might make a good selector one day...
He's a bit of a tool, but I quite like his lack of fence-sitting. Might make a good selector one day...
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Went a bit easy on Anderson, but understandable!
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Aye, I suppose it's a bit hard to call a team-mate a useless c*nt on the eve of a new season...
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Doesn't mince his words, does he!
Most of what he said makes a lot of sense ... "contribution to the team".
I liked that phrase ... enough said.
Most of what he said makes a lot of sense ... "contribution to the team".
I liked that phrase ... enough said.
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Hmmmmmmm ...
"If Fred comes back fit, who do you drop?"
" I'd drop Vaughan, you can't pick him purely as a captain"
"If Fred comes back fit, who do you drop?"
" I'd drop Vaughan, you can't pick him purely as a captain"
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I've always had a lot of time for Corky!!
He's very observant too
He's very observant too
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Can't Sky get some 'experts' that actually have some sort of credibility due to a successful international career? Mark Ramprakash, Nick Knight, Ian Ward, Dominic Cork...... It's a procession of mid to late 90's underachievement. A lot of their comments make sense, but you can't help thinking, "But they're all still better than you ever were at the top level."
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Bit harsh on Cork - 112 wickets @29
Ok it isn't Curtley Ambrose stuff but is respectable...
Ok it isn't Curtley Ambrose stuff but is respectable...
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Yeah, Cork was a world class bowler from 1995 to 1997. But then he lost his ability to really swing the ball and from then on he (barely) got by with bluff and niggle and feistiness.
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Henry wrote:Can't Sky get some 'experts' that actually have some sort of credibility due to a successful international career? Mark Ramprakash, Nick Knight, Ian Ward, Dominic Cork...... It's a procession of mid to late 90's underachievement. A lot of their comments make sense, but you can't help thinking, "But they're all still better than you ever were at the top level."
Whats that got to do with anything.
What he says makes sense. He's better than most we've had recently?
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holcs wrote:Henry wrote:Can't Sky get some 'experts' that actually have some sort of credibility due to a successful international career? Mark Ramprakash, Nick Knight, Ian Ward, Dominic Cork...... It's a procession of mid to late 90's underachievement. A lot of their comments make sense, but you can't help thinking, "But they're all still better than you ever were at the top level."
Whats that got to do with anything.
Indeed. With that sort of attitude Trev would have nobody ever being allowed to comment on Hayden.
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You don't need to have been better than them, or even have any talent at all at the sport in question, to be qualified to criticise sportsmen... you just have to be able to spot what they're doing wrong and to think you can pick a better team than the coach/manager/selectors!
Obviously those who have played at the highest level can see it from a different viewpoint to the rest of us, but it doesn't mean they are the only ones whose criticisms are valid.
Obviously those who have played at the highest level can see it from a different viewpoint to the rest of us, but it doesn't mean they are the only ones whose criticisms are valid.
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Agreed - bit like piking if they had Alex Ferguson remarking on an international footy match.
As a player he hardly tore trees up, so how can he criticise others ?
As a player he hardly tore trees up, so how can he criticise others ?
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Crikey! Cork isn't so much of a ****** after all. I find it hard to disagree with anything he said.
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Possibly the most sensible comments to come out of Derbyshire for some years.
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Lardy - Corky's been playing for Lancs for the last 4 years - he had quite a falling out with the Derbyshire management.
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I know, Growly. Still, it had to be said.
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Corky is pretty astute when he's not mouthing off. As for Trev's comments, Cork was a fine bowler for a while and hasn't ever not performed in CC. He's got a 'right' to comment, though he needs none... punditry isn't about what you did in your own career. If it was, someone like Mark Waugh or Ian Botham would be worth their salt.
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At the end of the day, Corky is saying openly what others are now thinking.
There is no God given right to the captaincy unless a consistent performance is achieved - whether with bat or ball or indeed, with the art of captaincy itself.
There is no God given right to the captaincy unless a consistent performance is achieved - whether with bat or ball or indeed, with the art of captaincy itself.
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Merlin wrote:At the end of the day, Corky is saying openly what others are now thinking.
There is no God given right to the captaincy unless a consistent performance is achieved - whether with bat or ball or indeed, with the art of captaincy itself.
Duck for fear of Tesco Value Baked Bean cans being thrown in this direction!!
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holcs wrote:Merlin wrote:At the end of the day, Corky is saying openly what others are now thinking.
There is no God given right to the captaincy unless a consistent performance is achieved - whether with bat or ball or indeed, with the art of captaincy itself.
Duck for fear of Tesco Value Baked Bean cans being thrown in this direction!!
It was said for just that reason Chas!
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To be fair to MPV, the best attack we've faced since the Ashes has been the Indian one in England and he actually scored some runs. He got some decent balls in NZ on a whole and was unfortunate at least twice to get out in SL. Therefore, with the abject shit that all of our top 6 have come up with since WI, then I'm not sure he deserves the trouncing he gets. Easily our second best batsman behind KP.
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Brass Monkey wrote:To be fair to MPV, the best attack we've faced since the Ashes has been the Indian one in England and he actually scored some runs. He got some decent balls in NZ on a whole and was unfortunate at least twice to get out in SL. Therefore, with the abject shit that all of our top 6 have come up with since WI, then I'm not sure he deserves the trouncing he gets. Easily our second best batsman behind KP.
Perhaps Danny, and I'd be inclined to agree with you to be honest.
However, if he is going to stand by the, my batters all average 40, and allow them to continue to sprout such garbage, then he himself must follow the same statistical relevance, and as such, he averaged 20 in NZ!
Unfortunately I dont believe you can have it both ways!?
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Perhaps Danny, and I'd be inclined to agree with you to be honest.
However, if he is going to stand by the, my batters all average 40, and allow them to continue to sprout such garbage, then he himself must follow the same statistical relevance, and as such, he averaged 20 in NZ!
Unfortunately I dont believe you can have it both ways!?
No. Firstly he should stop splurging out twat rhetoric. It's actually discrediting him. But as for 'F*ck him off, he hasn't done much for 5 Tests' - I'm not up for it. Just not up for it. As I mentioned previously, when the bowling is good or the conditions aren't favourable he's much, much more likely to score runs than Bell, Cook or Strauss. I'd rather him getting good balls or getting out in a ridiculously unlucky way against relative dross than some midget twat throwing his wicket away in an 'I've got Malteaser balls' shocker, who's place is never questioned - it would frankly be a travesty.
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