Jaipur blasts

How can anybody who feasts on canned beans be scared of bombs ?

IMO foreign players playing in IPL should be allowed to take decision whats best for them and their families. Don't think one should criticize them for leaving IPL midway.

PS: I still think majority of foreign players would still stay back in India. But that would render CA's stance not to play in Pak a bit questionable.

*Buckaroo* wrote:BBC has come out with the usual wonderful report that us Indians are to blame onlee ..

blame lies on both sides etc

Who is behind the India bombings?

More than 400 people have been killed in a string of serial bombings across India since October 2005, with Jaipur the latest city attacked. The BBC's Subir Bhaumik looks at who might be behind the blasts.

it is the uncivilized darkies who are constantly at each other's throats is BBC what wants us to infer

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The intelligence agencies rarely chase up leads to get more specific intelligence and when something like Jaipur happens, they refer to their old report to save their jobs."

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"They have thrived on Muslim alienation in India since the phenomenal rise of the Hindu right in the country in the mid-1980s," says Pradip Bose of the Calcutta-based Center for Study in Social Sciences (CSSS).

He says it all started with the demolition of the Babri Mosque in Ayodhya in December 1992 and has been fuelled by large-scale violence against Muslims, such as in the Gujarat riots in 2002.

"A riot like Gujarat creates a few thousand potential jihadis seeking revenge, so there's no use blaming the foreign hand. We in this country have created this problem," says Mr Bose, a distinguished sociologist.

To an extent, that is true. Babri Masjid and Gujarat was bound to have repercussions.

SG wrote:PS: I still think majority of foriegn players would still stay back in India. But that would render CA's stance not to play in Pak a bit questionable.

probably that is one of their ideas behind carrying out this attack.

these animals will only understand when they are answered back in the same coin.

But as everyone says, India's last prime minister with balls is Indira Gandhi. Ever since we have been saddled with a bunch of pygmies.

Yes, let's get all misty eyed when thinking of the emergency.

Babri Masjid and Gujarat was bound to have repercussions

Huge repercussions I'd say. Like US's invasion of Iraq and some of its policies have.

Big difference between acts of terrorism by rougle elements in a country with a stable Government Vs Chaotic bombings in a Country characterised by the collapse of institutions.

probably that is one of their ideas behind carrying out this attack.

I, not even in wildest of my imaginations, would link Jaipur terror attacks with the CA decision not to tour Pak last month.

Never ever..........

doremi wrote:Yes, let's get all misty eyed when thinking of the emergency.

Have you read Midnight's Children yet, doremi? I can't begin to tell you how cleverly the emergency is used in that book.

doremi wrote:

*Buckaroo* wrote:BBC has come out with the usual wonderful report that us Indians are to blame onlee ..

blame lies on both sides etc

Who is behind the India bombings?

More than 400 people have been killed in a string of serial bombings across India since October 2005, with Jaipur the latest city attacked. The BBC's Subir Bhaumik looks at who might be behind the blasts.

it is the uncivilized darkies who are constantly at each other's throats is BBC what wants us to infer

"

The intelligence agencies rarely chase up leads to get more specific intelligence and when something like Jaipur happens, they refer to their old report to save their jobs."

...

"They have thrived on Muslim alienation in India since the phenomenal rise of the Hindu right in the country in the mid-1980s," says Pradip Bose of the Calcutta-based Center for Study in Social Sciences (CSSS).

He says it all started with the demolition of the Babri Mosque in Ayodhya in December 1992 and has been fuelled by large-scale violence against Muslims, such as in the Gujarat riots in 2002.

"A riot like Gujarat creates a few thousand potential jihadis seeking revenge, so there's no use blaming the foreign hand. We in this country have created this problem," says Mr Bose, a distinguished sociologist.

To an extent, that is true. Babri Masjid and Gujarat was bound to have repercussions.

My dear young man .. the last 20 or infinite amount of bomb blasts have been carried out under pretext of Babri and Gujarat.

this pretext can be used until kingdom come by those inside and outside the country who want to justify terror against India.

What they are implying is that terror against India has internal causes while terror against west is 'true terror' .. DO YOU SEE THE HYPOCRISY ???

How about Hindus use the atrocities by the likes of Aurangzeb and Babar (tower of skulls anyone) and launch a thousand year war against these animals.

I spit on people like Pradip Bose who act as Indian faces for external agents of manipulation so typified by the Anglo-American media.

On the other hand we have so called secular parties that pussy foot against taking the hard decisions and in many cases making dangerous concessions.

Wasn't Indira Gandhi responsible for fostering the Sikh extremists for a while until it came to bite her back ?

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:

doremi wrote:Yes, let's get all misty eyed when thinking of the emergency.

Have you read Midnight's Children yet, doremi? I can't begin to tell you how cleverly the emergency is used in that book.

Yes, I have.

SG wrote:

probably that is one of their ideas behind carrying out this attack.

I, not even in wildest of my imaginations, would link Jaipur terror attacks with the CA decision not to tour Pak last month.

Never ever..........

You have to .. in Geopolitics the darkest of motivations is usually the primary motivating factor.

While I am not saying that is the only reason, but it surely could be one of the reasons. Commonly agreed one in India is that Pakistan army wants to turn the heat from it's western border and resultant American pressure to act against taliban there by targeting Jihadi attacks in India and breaking ceasefire. That would irritate the MMS govt who already doesn't have any face 'in an election year' to launching a 2001 like operation-parakram against the pakis. That means they have to dedicate more troops against India.

So they can give the Americans that excuse. btw they are sponsoring terror in Afghanistan as well .. their Army that is.

Big difference between acts of terrorism by rougle elements in a country with a stable Government Vs Chaotic bombings in a Country characteresied by the collapse of institutions.

Agreed. Still bombs don't know how to differentiate between a democractic & largely peaceful country and a chaotic country. They'll cause mass destruction wherever and whenever they're detonated.

Is this not verging on hate speech?

How about Hindus use the atrocities by the likes of Aurangzeb and Babar (tower of skulls anyone) and launch a thousand year war against these animals.

I wouldn't mind. As long as India isn't involved in any way. Looneys from both sides could go kill each other, and we could shoot the survivors. Win-win.

basic factor is we are dealing with a bunch of very clever operators.

Pakistan's army runs jihadi camps, yet their generals and rich elite are capable of showing a very liberal and westernized face in the west.

they have this elaborate facade of liberalness which covers up their Islamic agenda.

the west uses countries like Pakistan as attack dogs against India.

In fact the very raison d'etre behind creation of Pakistan was Churchill's burning desire to seek revenge against Gandhi.

Also they wanted to cut India's access to middle-eastern oil in the 40s.

All our enemies plan well into the future, it's only us who are short-sighted and have the vision of a wasp.

*Buckaroo* wrote:We are saddled with a pathetic Prime Minister. The most useless one since independence.

If he had any balls or whatever that dangles between the legs, no external threat would have dared to do this to us.

As you can see from this thread itself, we have no friends. We are alone in this .. and we must fight to the finish.

the callousness with which western media is reporting this incident also bring tears to my eyes, some Bay area newspaper reported this news in the middle page. And said *hindus worhipping Monkey-God Hanuman were targeted*

The duplicity of Congress [Note to SG] is exposed from the fact that while Congress has allowed acts like MCOCA in Maharashtra where it is in power [Maharashtra Control of Organized Crimes Act] and similiar regulations in Himachal Pradesh [where it was in power till a month back], acts giving law greater teeth to handle a variety of organized crimes including terrorism, the same Center has not allowed BJP ruled states like Gujarat and Rajasthan to have similiar laws and their applications are pending at the center for two years now. Why this hypocrisy? Why can't all Indian states have the same kind of laws and why should the state's right to control their own law and order situation be dependent on who is ruling at the Center? Why is Congress starting so many mindless buses and trains to Pakistan and Bangladesh which is facilitating influx of more spies and terrorists who come in submitting fake documents, ids and addresses and these are not even verified by the authorities, the process for which is severely lax. Indian citizens who got killed in Mumbai blasts were awarded compenstaion of Rs 5 lakhs, but some Pakistani citizens killed in Samjauta train blasts near Atari alst year were given Rs 10 lakh by Lalooand his railway ministery. Why this hypocrisy?

Even more duplitious is the way the Center [Congress] has prevented Gujarat and Rajasthan to not pass their Bills on Religious Conversions, but quietly slipped a similiar bill in Himachal Pradesh a year back with an eye on the elections.

And why is Manmohan Singh the so called 'PM' not losing any sleep when so many Indians [majority victims Hindus] perish in these attacks and why does any action taken against any Indian Muslim in some foreign country make him sleepless? Of course since I am a certified 'liar' who can only tell 'irrelevant lies' [Factually correct lies, mind you], I am sure I will not get any answers from any true blue Congress loyalist. Merely more pseudo accusations and beating around the bush.

:?:

Josh Carney wrote:On the other hand we have so called secular parties that pussy foot against taking the hard decisions and in many cases making dangerous concessions.

Not too different from BJP having millitant allies like SS, Akalis and AGP (for some time) since time immemorial.

Wasn't Indira Gandhi responsible for fostering the Sikh extremists for a while until it came to bite her back ?

This may be true or may be not. But one thing is for sure Akalis had huge links with Khalistanis who espoused seperate homeland for Sikhs.

Don't Gujarat have a POTA like act passed and working?

were is the crowd that gives pappi-jhappis on the Wagah border and stands holding candles singing kumbayas to 'brotherly love' sic

how we are all one people, and everything is so same on the other side of the border etc ...

*Buckaroo* wrote:were is the crowd that gives pappi-jhappis on the Wagah border and stands holding candles singing kumbayas to 'brotherly love' sic

how we are all one people, and everything is so same on the other side of the border etc ...

So, what exactly do you have in mind? Invasion? Otherwise improving relations seems to be the thing to do.

SG wrote:

Josh Carney wrote:On the other hand we have so called secular parties that pussy foot against taking the hard decisions and in many cases making dangerous concessions.

Not too different from BJP having millitant allies like SS, Akalis and AGP (for some time) since time immemorial.

Wasn't Indira Gandhi responsible for fostering the Sikh extremists for a while until it came to bite her back ?

This may be true or may be not. But one thing is for sure Akalis had huge links with Khalistanis who espoused seperate homeland for Sikhs.

It is no state secret that Bhindranwale was promoted by Indira Gandhi and that her frankenstien turned on her resulting in Operation Bluestar and yet true Blue Congress loyalists continue to live in denial.....

Care to define militancy of BJP-SS and their 'likes'? Bomb blasts? Terrorism? Naxalism? Exporting terror to neighbouring countries? Define militancy and then define how Congress was not militant in it's actions post Operation Bluestar and Indira's assasination?

Militancy of BJP-SS? Well, does genocide sound OK?

doremi wrote:

*Buckaroo* wrote:were is the crowd that gives pappi-jhappis on the Wagah border and stands holding candles singing kumbayas to 'brotherly love' sic

how we are all one people, and everything is so same on the other side of the border etc ...

So, what exactly do you have in mind? Invasion? Otherwise improving relations seems to be the thing to do.

no, i want to see their sorry faces .. and how they are going to say that we are all one.

after the nth terrorist attack sponsored by our peaceful friends from across the border i.e

don't you want to see them ?