WI v Australia, 2nd Test, North Sound, 30th May-3rd June

noelene wrote:
A win was the only way to save the series.Australia has already retained the trophy.
who cares if they lost the test.Nobody would criticise them under those circumstances.
Negative thinking to bat out for a draw.
They sure need Gayle back,he may have enabled them to think of going for it.

you're looking at the world through green and gold tinted glasses there though, try putting yourself in their shoes.

Although I agree with Bas - they needed 211-36 and 171 off 27.

It was worth a go at least until one of Sars/Chanders got out. None of this patting back Clarke malarkey...

Hass wrote: It's a tough gig being called in and out of the side over a 10-year period, but MacGill did it and deserves a little bit of respect on the day he's finally hung up the boots.

I've given Magoo all the respect he's earned from me.

The only good thing I can say about him is that at least he wasn't a chucker. But if he had shown even half the application and determination that the CLBER did when fielding and batting, I'd have been happy.

Last 5/6 tests played in Antigua (this was the first test on newly built Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, previous 5 were played on ARG) have been draws.

Chanders has now scored 1062 runs in his last 9 tests @ 106-odd with 5 tons.

*respect*

You've got to respeck. You just have. He's faced some decent bowlers and most importantly, his team's been constantly shit and in trouble. Granted, that could produce a bit of 'zen' when you reach the crease - but when you've been in the thick of it for a couple of hours it must start to heap on the pressure.

Ronnie is pretty okay too though.

I'm glad we finished the WI tour.

PeterCS wrote:Ronnie is pretty okay too though.

He's started to be. He needed to be. He was wasting himself - the qunt. I still think there's a bit of 'shit spinner feasting' and 'fair track tanking' in there - as with the likes of Ian Bell and Michael Clarke.

doremi wrote:I'm glad we finished the WI tour... without pulling out due to a decision we didn't like.

fixed.

Brass Monkey wrote:

doremi wrote:I'm glad we finished the WI tour... without pulling out due to a decision we didn't like.

fixed.

Wouldn't happen. Bucky can't be an umpire in a India-WI series.

Brass Monkey wrote:

PeterCS wrote:Ronnie is pretty okay too though.

He's started to be. He needed to be. He was wasting himself - the qunt. I still think there's a bit of 'shit spinner feasting' and 'fair track tanking' in there - as with the likes of Ian Bell and Michael Clarke.

True to an extent. He coulda been a Kanhai.

Though to be fair, a test average nudging over 40 is not exactly wastrel territory.

doremi wrote:

Wouldn't happen. Bucky can't be an umpire in a India-WI series.

Good point well made. Still, only a matter of time before some other ump gets it. I'm going for another black ump, considering the fervent racism, probably Doctrove.

Brass Monkey wrote:

doremi wrote:

Wouldn't happen. Bucky can't be an umpire in a India-WI series.

Good point well made. Still, only a matter of time before some other ump gets it. I'm going for another black ump, considering the fervent racism, probably Doctrove.

I'm thinking Jerling or Howell would be better. It's high time we concentrated our eyes back on whiteys, we may be racist, but we don't discriminate when it comes to beig racist...

PeterCS wrote:
True to an extent. He coulda been a Kanhai.

Though to be fair, a test average nudging over 40 is not exactly wastrel territory.

40 doesn't reflect where he should be. Hence he's underachieved. Glad he's putting it together now, but really he should've been here years ago. Basically, he's got an arrogance about him and he needs to be slapped back to Earth.

doremi wrote:I'm thinking Jerling or Howell would be better. It's high time we concentrated our eyes back on whiteys, we may be racist, but we don't discriminate when it comes to beig racist...

Howell, I'd say. He's fat too.

Brass Monkey wrote:

PeterCS wrote:
True to an extent. He coulda been a Kanhai.

Though to be fair, a test average nudging over 40 is not exactly wastrel territory.

40 doesn't reflect where he should be. Hence he's underachieved. Glad he's putting it together now, but really he should've been here years ago. Basically, he's got an arrogance about him and he needs to be slapped back to Earth.

You could couner that he needs to show more arrogance - in his batting rather than his manner.

Though he may not be physically big enough to do the Viv or the Panther (Lloyd), he has the technical flair to dominate more, not less.

We're not fattist though.

PeterCS wrote:
You could couner that he needs to show more arrogance - in his batting rather than his manner.

Though he may not be physically big enough to do the Viv or the Panther (Lloyd), he has the technical flair to dominate more, not less.

True, but I think his summation of situations and all-round shot selection has been poor until recent. I think it helps that he's a more senior member now - I'd personally not want to see him try to up the rates until he's well set, although he was pretty impeccable first up yesterday I thought it was a little brave for that situation. He calmed down admirably though, going further to bolster that he's started to play the scenario better.

doremi wrote:We're not fattist though.

You should be... look at Lever. Nice bloke. But he gets all camp about fat, bitchy style. Surely we all aspire to Lever's niceness?

Brass Monkey wrote:

doremi wrote:We're not fattist though.

You should be... look at Lever. Nice bloke. But he gets all camp about fat, bitchy style. Surely we all aspire to Lever's niceness?

You're ignoring the fact I championed fat Samit for a ODI call up.

I'm more Salesist than fattist.

JKLever wrote:
You're ignoring the fact I championed fat Samit for a ODI call up.

I'm more Salesist than fattist.

**nods**

Aye. Samit Patel - List 'A' average 31.

**golf claps**

Now he likes to play the stats game.....

Who doesn't, when it suits your case?


I love suitcases, by the way. Whenever I see one, I want to get inside it and shut the lid. I can scarcely contain myself.

JKLever wrote:Now he likes to play the stats game.....

When haven't I?

Ian Bell doesn't score under pressure -

JKL: Meh...

Brass: **list of comprehensive stats** - See?

Two years later:

JKL: Oh yeah, Bell doesn't score under pressure.
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Lever: We need someone who can play all forms of cricket

Monkey: DJG Sales - **stats** Blah, blah, blah...

Lever: Meh...