Off Topic: Bond, James Bond. Good, Bad & Indifferent

Bond should be camp. Roger Moore was appropriately absurd.

Brosnan and Connery were both excellent as well.

I liked Dalton in 'The Living Daylights', but 'Licence to Kill' was just rubbish AFAIC. Lazenby wasn't as awful as some make out, but not comparable to the big 3.

Haven't seen Craig yet... as I said, I think Bond should be camp, and the impression I have from others is that Casino Royale is excessively serious.

Haven't seen Craig yet... as I said, I think Bond should be camp, and the impression I have from others is that Casino Royale is excessively serious.

You'll hate it. Darkest Bond ever.


But why should Bond be camp?

Excellent thread title because it makes it very clear that the topic does NOT have anything to do with cricket.

It's not that hard to do, really.

Who?

What?

Why?

Whence?

How?

How? Shaken, not stirred.

Where?

I thought Lazenby had the best outro scene of any Bond film ("She's just resting.." Cue Satchmo) and was unlucky only to get the one go. Much underrated, as others have said.
The Moore films were one step from being cartoons, though I did like the 'baccy-chewing red-neck sherriff that used to appear apoplectically in some of them.
Connery and Craig as my other two favourites.

Jontyh wrote:I thought Lazenby had the best outro scene of any Bond film ("She's just resting.." Cue Satchmo) and was unlucky only to get the one go. Much underrated, as others have said.
The Moore films were one step from being cartoons, though I did like the 'baccy-chewing red-neck sherriff that used to appear apoplectically in some of them.

I remember that Ernest Borgninesque character. He was the 'butt' of a couple of a couple of good speedboat stunts ...

Live and let Die

Yeah.

Some nice crocodile hopscotch in that one, too ... or was that another movie?

Same one

Sherriff J.W. Pepper. He was also in The Man With The Golden Gun.
I've just re-read Live and Let Die as it happens, and the film really only uses it as a point of departure. There's no Louisiana speedboat chase or any crocodiles; Mr Big is laundering recovered pirate treasure through pawn shops in Harlem, not dealing heroin (from the Caribbean??); the train journey occurs after Bond flees NY having killed 3 of Mr Big's henchmen (though Mr Big was letting him go anyway) and there's no fight with TeeHee as in the film's finale; and Bond does a couple of week's hard training with Quarrel (like Connery does in Dr No) before launching his underwater assault on Mr Big's boat.
Felix Leiter gets fed to the sharks though, losing a couple of limbs - does that happen in the film? I can't remember.
Oh, and Solitaire never does the tarot and they don't shag until the very end of the novel when Bond's broken finger has healed(!).

Why did they discontinue the different flavours of Feasts?

Leave and let dah?

Jontyh wrote:Felix Leiter gets fed to the sharks though, losing a couple of limbs - does that happen in the film?

Not sure about the film, but IIRC in the book 'he disagreed with something that ate him'.

Read a good piece recently about a descendant of Fleming's (niece I think) revisiting his writer's house in the West Indies ... the Jamaican coastline and society (and ganga??) had a big influence on those early Fleming novels.

Damien writes?!

lardbucket wrote:

Jontyh wrote:Felix Leiter gets fed to the sharks though, losing a couple of limbs - does that happen in the film?

Not sure about the film, but IIRC in the book 'he disagreed with something that ate him'.

That particular event was left out of the movie, but was eventually used as the catalyst for Bond going renegade in Dalton's 'Licence to Kill'. Not a great 'Bond' movie, but a pretty good action flick.

lardbucket wrote:

Jontyh wrote:Felix Leiter gets fed to the sharks though, losing a couple of limbs - does that happen in the film?

Not sure about the film, but IIRC in the book 'he disagreed with something that ate him'.

Read a good piece recently about a descendant of Fleming's (niece I think) revisiting his writer's house in the West Indies ... the Jamaican coastline and society (and ganga??) had a big influence on those early Fleming novels.

Darren Ganga?

He's hiding his age well then.

Zat wrote:

lardbucket wrote:

Jontyh wrote:Felix Leiter gets fed to the sharks though, losing a couple of limbs - does that happen in the film?

Not sure about the film, but IIRC in the book 'he disagreed with something that ate him'.

That particular event was left out of the movie, but was eventually used as the catalyst for Bond going renegade in Dalton's 'Licence to Kill'. Not a great 'Bond' movie, but a pretty good action flick.

It was in a film. I saw it on a trip to the US.