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Post by Henry Thu 03 Jul 2008, 09:39

If the racial divide in world cricket is anything like the racial divide on this forum, then cricket is at the crossroads.
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Post by taipan Thu 03 Jul 2008, 09:43

Henry wrote:If the racial divide in world cricket is anything like the racial divide on this forum, then cricket is at the crossroads.

No, quite a few of the Indian's have coem out against the BCCI
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Post by lardbucket Thu 03 Jul 2008, 09:44

Sad but true.

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Post by skully Thu 03 Jul 2008, 09:56

Henry wrote:
Looking forward to a (southern) summer free of the sooking ******.

Hayden and Ponting have announced their retirements? There should be a thread on this....
Feel free to start one, Trev.
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Post by SG Thu 03 Jul 2008, 10:52

I'd assume England realised they didn't have the numbers to block it, so decided to give it their support in the interests of not causing a massive stink.
How convenient!!

If you don't have evidence, then just assume things.

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Post by taipan Thu 03 Jul 2008, 10:54

SG wrote:
I'd assume England realised they didn't have the numbers to block it, so decided to give it their support in the interests of not causing a massive stink.
How convenient!!

If you don't have evidence, then just assume things.

It's an opinion.
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Post by JKLever Thu 03 Jul 2008, 10:56

Hass wrote:

I'd assume England realised they didn't have the numbers to block it, so decided to give it their support in the interests of not causing a massive stink.

Perhaps I'm assuming too much, but I think it's a pretty fair assumption.

England has been pretty good at staying away from the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" culture of ICC politics.

I think we can safely assume they've done a deal over the Zimbo situation.
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Post by holcs Thu 03 Jul 2008, 10:57

Whichever way you look at it. The whole ICC have well and truley made a very bad precedent here for the future.

If you don't like it, you can walk off the pitch, not come back on, make a big stink, and get a draw a year later.

Not good at all. You can have a draw for bringing the whole game into disrepute!!

Absolutley shocking!!
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Post by lardbucket Thu 03 Jul 2008, 10:59

I think you're after the agreeing thread, Charlie.

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Post by Henry Thu 03 Jul 2008, 11:01

I wonder if India will try and get the Sydney test result overturned? Bucknor was stood down, after all.
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Post by Hass Thu 03 Jul 2008, 11:02

SG wrote:
I'd assume England realised they didn't have the numbers to block it, so decided to give it their support in the interests of not causing a massive stink.
How convenient!!

If you don't have evidence, then just assume things.

What's even more convenient is using quotes out of context.

My next line read:

"Perhaps I'm assuming too much, but I think it's a pretty fair assumption."

I then made another assumption - that England might have been supporting Pakistan on this because there was something in it for them.

Those two assumptions contradict each other somewhat, but I decided to place more weight on the former because of England's record on similar matters in the past.

I wasn't at the ICC meeting, so I don't know exactly what went on. But I didn't come down in the last shower, and can use my nose to work out what smells and what doesn't.

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Post by JGK Thu 03 Jul 2008, 11:04

I think JKL has probably got it right. England agreed to it in return for Zimbabwe being disinvited by the ICC to the T20 tournament in England next year without having to actually ban Zimbabwe from the ICC.

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Post by The One Thu 03 Jul 2008, 11:55

Hass wrote:
SG wrote:
But carry on with that - wait for it - chip on your shoulder.
Huge one at that.

the english are subis
Considering that ECB are equal party to this decision being taken, I wonder why they're not being called any names so far while India for all its innocence in this case, are being dragged into this. Huge huge chip on shoulder.

Yep, all evils must be coming from India.

I'd assume England realised they didn't have the numbers to block it, so decided to give it their support in the interests of not causing a massive stink.

Perhaps I'm assuming too much, but I think it's a pretty fair assumption.

England has been pretty good at staying away from the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" culture of ICC politics.

Maybe they've succumbed to that failing this time, but I'd say it's more a case of "if you can't beat 'em join 'em".

As an Aussie I can certainly say that the ECB has displayed much more moral fibre than Cricket Australia over the past few years.

Cheers.

thats hilarious. another word for describing your views for similar actions by cricket boards would be 'prejudiced'

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Post by furriner Thu 03 Jul 2008, 15:11

doremi wrote:
Invader Zim wrote:ICC = Indian Controlled ******.

Fark em. ******.

Yeah, except India had nothing whatsoever to do with it. But carry on with that - wait for it - chip on your shoulder.

bounce

You expected 'intelligence'?
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Post by Henry Thu 03 Jul 2008, 15:13

Zim has a picture of Gandhi stuck to his dart board at home.
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Post by furriner Thu 03 Jul 2008, 15:25

Possibly because he believes Gandhi was the Reichsführer who was mean to all them Juice.
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Post by doremi Thu 03 Jul 2008, 17:59

1. Did this go to the vote of all the boards? Why should it, doesn't really concern the other 8 boards, only PCB, ECB and the ICC, so I'm not sure ECB 'went with it because they were in a minority'.

2. The ECB agreeing with the PCB has been known (or there were rumours anyways) for quite some time now, so the more recent Zim situation shouldn't come into the equation.

3. Get over yourselves, and all the 'woe is us' posts are a bit tiresome.

4. Ban Pakistan.

5. Ban England.
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Post by JKLever Thu 03 Jul 2008, 18:26

'Get over yourselves?'

Hmmm.

Just because the ECB agrees to it doesn't mean we agree with them. We don't have to toe the party line like The One does do we? Wink
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Post by Zat Fri 04 Jul 2008, 01:14

But TO makes so much sense JKL...

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Post by JGK Fri 04 Jul 2008, 11:31

JGK wrote:I think JKL has probably got it right. England agreed to it in return for Zimbabwe being disinvited by the ICC to the T20 tournament in England next year without having to actually ban Zimbabwe from the ICC.


Picked it like a dirty nose. Yet another sad day for international cricket.

Zimbabwe keep ICC full membership



From correspondents in Dubai, United Arab Emirates
July 04, 2008
STRIFE-TORN Zimbabwe will remain a full member of the International Cricket Council after the deeply divided world body worked out a last-minute compromise.The ICC Executive Board, meeting for an unscheduled third day, agreed to keep Zimbabwe in its fold after the African nation acceded to India's request to pull out of next year's World Twenty20 championships in England.

The British government had made it clear it would not issue visas to Zimbabwean cricketers which could have forced the ICC to move the lucrative tournament out of England.

Zimbabwe Cricket Union president Peter Chingoka said his country had voluntarily pulled out of the event.

"Zimbabwe has agreed not to participate in the Twenty20 world championships in the wider interest of cricket," Chingoka said.

"But we will continue to be a full member of the ICC and welcome any team that wants to play against us.

"We voluntarily agreed to back out of the Twenty20 worlds because we were told we won't get visas to England. We don't want to gate crash where we are not welcome."

The cricket boards of South Africa and England last week suspended bilateral ties with Zimbabwe in protest at the deteriorating political situation in the country, where President Robert Mugabe was controversially re-elected.

While England and South Africa wanted Zimbabwe to be suspended from the ICC, the Asian bloc -- led by the game's commercial powerhouse India - opposed the move.

India convinced Zimbabwe to reach a compromise at a late-night meeting, an Indian board official said.


Agence France-Presse

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Post by Zat Fri 04 Jul 2008, 11:34

It's possible Chingoka's being practical JKL, it's possible that everyone capable of playing cricket in Zimbabwe will be dead or maimed to the point of disability by the time the event's on.

But well done for picking it.

Now about tomorrow's races...

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Post by skully Sun 06 Jul 2008, 01:41

Will this thread be locked soon? Please?
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Post by lardbucket Sun 06 Jul 2008, 01:43

You trying to overtake tac today, skully?

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Post by skully Sun 06 Jul 2008, 01:46

You know what I'm doing piefellow.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 06 Jul 2008, 01:57

Peace has erupted on Zog.

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