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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 15 Jul 2008, 05:33

PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK should start afresh!


It is not possible, there is no depth.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 05:36

*Buckaroo* wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK should start afresh!


It is not possible, there is no depth.
unbanning the ICL players would help
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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 05:48

If the banned drugs he tested positive for turn out to be performance enhancing, then he should be banned for life.
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Post by SG Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:12

Unconfirmed reports say Asif consumed Nandrolone again.

If its true then there won't be many rivals to Asif as far as idiocy stakes are concerned.

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Post by Chandan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:22

Henry wrote:If the banned drugs he tested positive for turn out to be performance enhancing, then he should be banned for life.

I don't think BCCI has the rights to ban to him for the life or even from international cricket. At the most they'll ban him for IPL. But that is not going to stop Asif from appearing in ODIs and tests.

And the rumours are that he won't be banned at all from anywhere!!

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Post by SG Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:37

nd the rumours are that he won't be banned at all from anywhere!!
Even if his sample B tests positive?

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Post by The One Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:41

Chandan wrote:And the rumours are that he won't be banned at all from anywhere!!

i would be extremely surprised and extremely angry if that were true. asif deserves a heavy punishment

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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:43

Whats the "source" of your rumors Chandan?
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:43

The One wrote:
Chandan wrote:And the rumours are that he won't be banned at all from anywhere!!

i would be extremely surprised and extremely angry if that were true. asif deserves a heavy punishment
even Asif's mom will be upset and angry if he doesn't get a heavy punishment.
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Post by SG Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:44

The One wrote:
Chandan wrote:And the rumours are that he won't be banned at all from anywhere!!

i would be extremely surprised and extremely angry if that were true. asif deserves a heavy punishment
PCB (and IPL) would lose all its credibility then.

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Post by Chandan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:48

SG wrote:
nd the rumours are that he won't be banned at all from anywhere!!
Even if his sample B tests positive?

Just read this:

Mohammad Asif tests positive; uncertainty looms over ban





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Post by The One Tue 15 Jul 2008, 06:51

wow! so many grey areas for such a simple case. makes you wonder if the cricket world is serious about doping

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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:00

"15.3.1 in WADA's code says that in the case where an international player tests positive in another country's tournament, the rules of the overall global governing body - the ICC here - are likely to apply"

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Post by SG Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:07

The One wrote:wow! so many grey areas for such a simple case. makes you wonder if the cricket world is serious about doping
He may be let off on the basis of technicalities. If that happens that would be shame.

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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:18

There would be an international outcry if Asif is let off for testing positive for a SECOND TIME. In most sports around the world, one positive test is enough for a 3-4 year ban.

Cricket would be a laughing stock around the world if Asif is let off the hook yet again. Lets not forget that he was arrested in Dubai as well for carrying illegal substances, as well as twice testing positive for illegal drugs. You could almost say that the man is an addict.
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Post by taipan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:21

After the events of the past 2 weeks nothing would surprise me.

The BCCI might support Pak in not banning him to secure their vote.
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Post by SG Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:24

Henry wrote:There would be an international outcry if Asif is let off for testing positive for a SECOND TIME.
The link Chandan posted states that it won't be deemed as his second offence since he was exonerated by appeals panel appointed by PCB during first instance.

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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:28

Is Asif really worth the PCB losing all credibility? Aren't they better off banning him and restoring some respect? The guy's a decent bowler when he's not injured (Which seems to be hardly ever) but he's hardly an Imran Khan or Wasim Akram.

Set an example of him, and find another bowler to be Pakistan's spearhead.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:32

Henry wrote:Is Asif really worth the PCB losing all credibility? Aren't they better off banning him and restoring some respect? The guy's a decent bowler when he's not injured (Which seems to be hardly ever) but he's hardly an Imran Khan or Wasim Akram.

Set an example of him, and find another bowler to be Pakistan's spearhead.
couldn't agree more. Even if he was as good as Wasim he should still be banned. PAK will inevitably find a great fast bowler with in a year and a half.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:33

hopefully the next great fast bowler is as quick as Zahid!
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Post by taipan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:34

PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK will inevitably find a great fast bowler with in a year and a half.

And equally inevitably he will be injured in a year and three quarters.
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Post by The One Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:34

and not as fragile as zahid

the pcb have stated they are not going to support asif. which is a good thing

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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:36

taipan wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK will inevitably find a great fast bowler with in a year and a half.

And equally inevitably he will be injured in a year and three quarters.
atleast he would have an excuse. This guy(Asif) bowls at 125-132 KPH and still stays injured for 8 months/year
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Post by Henry Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:37

PlanetPakistan wrote:hopefully the next great fast bowler is as quick as Zahid!

Zahid wasn't that quick. The fastest he was timed at was 149 km/h, then injury struck and he came back as a middle age looking medium fast bowler bowling at around 135 km/h.

Pakistan seem to be losing their ability to produce genuine speedsters. Abdur Rauf was hyped up a few years ago as being very quick, but he's only been clocking between 130 and 135 km/h.

Gul is the quickest of the current bunch, but he always seems to be getting injured.
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Post by Batman Tue 15 Jul 2008, 07:38

Asif pleads innocence [Yet Again].....
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Pakistan bowler Mohammad Asif protested his innocence on Monday after it was confirmed he had failed a dope test during the Indian Premier League earlier this year.

"I have taken no banned substances or drugs and I am innocent,"
Asif told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I am hoping the board will support me and help me clear my name. I will take a decision on having the sample 'B" tested after consulting with the board," Asif said.

"I just don't know how this has happened because I have been very careful with the medicines I use," he said.

The 25-year-old was left out of Pakistan's Champions Trophy preliminary squad once the positive was confirmed by the organisers of the Indian Premier League on Monday.

"Obviously in these circumstances he can't be considered for selection. The board has officially informed him of his positive test," Zakir Khan, the PCB's director of cricket operations, said on Monday.

Khan said Asif had the right to appeal and ask for a B sample test, but the board would be discussing the issue with him soon.

"We have been told his test was conducted on May 30 and which has come as positive. We are disappointed and shocked at this development," he said.

Asif, who has played 11 Tests and 31 one-day internationals, was last month detained in Dubai for 19 days for alleged possession of a banned substance.

He was released by the authorities without being charged but a Pakistan board committee is probing the incident to see if he violated its anti-doping regulations.

After his detention, Asif claimed the substance found on him was a ayurvedic medicine he was prescribed by a local Hakeem (ayurvedic practitioner) for his elbow injury

A board official said it would investigate the issue of Asif using ayurvedic medicine and speak to the person who prescribed it to the player.

"We have to see now what substance exactly has been found in his tests," the official said on condition of anonymity.
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