Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test , Leeds, 18-22 July

by Growler Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:11

PeterCS wrote:Just like to add to the others well played, Jimmy Anderson.

Still not entirely sure he's really Test class, as he can't really "make it happen" as a bowler when conditions aren't helping (the X factor). But he is a good lad, motivated and courageous. And has become a decent, wholehearted bowler after all the yip-type horrors.

Used to be another bowler they used to say that about a few years ago - "waste of time when the ball doesn't swing" ..... but he plugged away all the same and became almost an automatic selection until recently. Yorkshire lad - Hoggard I think it was.

Sure JA will have rotten games but he's been the best of our quicks for the last 4 or 5 games, and I think he'll keep improving a while yet.

by Big_Bad_Bob Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:12

JKLever wrote:Ambrose,Fred,Broad are an excellent 7,8,9

but not a great 6,7,8

Aye - Bops for Pattinson in the next Test for me.

Could consider Jones for Broad if you want something a bit different in your attack.

May as well gamble now.

by JKLever Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:17

Shot Monty!!!

by JKLever Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:25

Almost over... not sure why Broad took the single first ball of the over but it hardly matters.

by Big_Bad_Bob Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:32

Fark me, Broady can't half bat!

by JKLever Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:35

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Fark me, Broady can't half bat!

Just needs the bowling to kick on...

by Naeem Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:36

8 matches at 37.77 for Broad, not bad for a tailender

by Chivalry Augustus Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:37

It's not just that he can bat, he's also a gorgeous player to watch (in a cricketing sense).

by furriner Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:40

Precisely. He has the strokes. An Asif Iqbal in the making?

by JKLever Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:43

furriner wrote:Precisely. He has the strokes. An Asif Iqbal in the making?

Steady....

I think we (England fans) need to be patient with his bowling much like Flintoffs in the late 90's

by Basil Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:43

The conundrum with Broad is that he is in the side as a bowler, but has bowled poorly in this game, and it should be remembered that these runs while pretty to look at are fairly meaningless in the context of the game.

Can Broad be persisted with in the short term? definitely not as part of a four man attack IMO.

by JKLever Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:45

Why is he taking singles so early in the over FFS

by furriner Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:49

JKLever wrote:Why is he taking singles so early in the over FFS

He's doing a Chanders. Keep that average up!

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:50

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Fark me, Broady can't half bat!

Oh yeah, the boy can play. Dedication, devotion. Turning all the night time into the day.

by Merlin Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:50

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:
JKLever wrote:Ambrose,Fred,Broad are an excellent 7,8,9

but not a great 6,7,8

Aye - Bops for Pattinson in the next Test for me.

Could consider Jones for Broad if you want something a bit different in your attack.

May as well gamble now.

WHAT?
Where did that one pop up from? Left field ?!

Bops hasn't "done it" at test level, has merely bowled half a dozen overs under Vawn's captaincy
and, whilst surely a future England player, now is NOT the time to gamble with the batting - what
England need is a recognized batsman. So why gash on Shah in favour of Bopara? :?:

Jones (or Hoggie) for Pattinson - deffo yes.

by furriner Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:50

JKLever wrote:
furriner wrote:Precisely. He has the strokes. An Asif Iqbal in the making?

Steady....

I think we (England fans) need to be patient with his bowling much like Flintoffs in the late 90's

Yeah I was exaggerating, but he can bat. You saw that pull shot (not the top edge)!

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:51

Maybe if he can smash a quick 150, it'll all be ok.

by Lara Lara Laughs Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:51

50 to Broad. Looks like he will top-score. Please don't move him up the order. Please don't move him up the order. Please don't move him up the order.

One of the most worrying things is that South Africa are getting massive scores without their star players scoring any. Once Kallis comes to the party, we can really start shitting ourselves.

by furriner Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:51

50 for 'Sturat Borad'.

by furriner Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:52

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:... Please don't move him up the order. Please don't move him up the order. Please don't move him up the order...

...

Wait and see, at this rate he'll be opening sometime soon. Wink

by Lara Lara Laughs Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:52

Racist.

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:53

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:50 to Broad. Looks like he will top-score. Please don't move him up the order. Please don't move him up the order. Please don't move him up the order.

One of the most worrying things is that South Africa are getting massive scores without their star players scoring any. Once Kallis comes to the party, we can really start shitting ourselves.

Yeah, we'd be better watch out or they might beat us!!!

by furriner Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:53

LLL = Vaughan lover. Rushdie lover.

by Lara Lara Laughs Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:55

High praise from a racist.

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:56

Beautiful shot.

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