Re: aust openers for India tour

by PearlJ Thu 04 Sep 2008, 16:17

Henry wrote:He's too closed in his stance, and he picks his bat up towards fine leg. Makes it very hard to play full and straight bowling.

Well they seem very minor flaws to me.

by Henry Thu 04 Sep 2008, 16:18

Ok.....

by PearlJ Thu 04 Sep 2008, 16:40

Henry wrote:Ok.....

Here is a video of him. I don't see much technically wrong with it. Not textbook but seems to work fine for him.

by spangler Thu 04 Sep 2008, 21:55

you can't really see much in a technique from 4 clips of him (3 playing the same shot)...
although I bow to the knowledge of people on the forum that 'know' about techniques

by PearlJ Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:05

spangler wrote:you can't really see much in a technique from 4 clips of him (3 playing the same shot)...
although I bow to the knowledge of people on the forum that 'know' about techniques

You can tell more from that, than you can from Trev's assertions.

by Gary 111 Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:07

A bit reminiscent of Chanders, also bats a bit like Katich.

Or maybe that was just a clip of Katich.

by PearlJ Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:10

Gary 111 wrote:A bit reminiscent of Chanders, also bats a bit like Katich.

Or maybe that was just a clip of Katich.

Katich was in it. He was the crabby looking one.

by Gary 111 Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:19

Katich, Jaques and Hughes all looked a bit crabby and left handed to me. Is there something in the water down there? (Apart from the stuff that makes it go round the sink in the wrong direction)

by PearlJ Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:28

Gary 111 wrote:Katich, Jaques and Hughes all looked a bit crabby and left handed to me. Is there something in the water down there? (Apart from the stuff that makes it go round the sink in the wrong direction)

Crabby looking lefties seem to make pretty good Australian openers. So the signs look good for Hughes Cool

by JKLever Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:32

You can't really tell from a few clips what a players like.

I could put a package together that would show Alex Gidman as a decent bat.

by PearlJ Thu 04 Sep 2008, 23:34

JKLever wrote:You can't really tell from a few clips what a players like.

I could put a package together that would show Alex Gidman as a decent bat.

Alex Gidman is an amazing batsmen. New Bradman.

by skully Fri 05 Sep 2008, 00:54

Henry wrote:
skully wrote:Hehehe. Trev in "talking with authority when he has none" shock.

As opposed to you? Just because you despise me, it doesn't mean i'm wrong.

Bwahahahahaha. I don't despise anyone Trev, that's your game.

And when you spruik your uninformed opinion as fact, I'll say so.

by horace Fri 05 Sep 2008, 01:45

mudge in giving spruikers and carnival barkers a bad name shocker

by Henry Fri 05 Sep 2008, 03:49

PearlJ wrote:
spangler wrote:you can't really see much in a technique from 4 clips of him (3 playing the same shot)...
although I bow to the knowledge of people on the forum that 'know' about techniques

You can tell more from that, than you can from Trev's assertions.

Yep. Too true. I can tell from that video that he has no shots whatsoever through the leg side, other than the leg side hoick, which got him out. He must be a genius....

by Chandan Fri 05 Sep 2008, 07:11

skully wrote:I have to agree that Jaques fills me with no confidence from a technique perspective but if he churns out the runs then he'll obviously stay.

Fleas is only a stop-gap at opener. He will probably fill Roy's vacant middle-order spot for India.

I guess the question becomes does Fleas stay as opener if Hayden is not fit, and bring in Not Paris in the middle order, or do they blood someone like Bog?

India is not really the place to blood a new Test opener.

And I hope your optimism in young Hughes is proven, h.

In fact India is the place best for every newcomer. I just can't remember more than 2 debutants who have failed against India, be it a bowler or a batsman, an opener or middle-order bat, a seamer or a spinner.

A debut against India is a sure shot ton for a batsman and a 5 fer for a bowler.

The only two debutants who failed against India are Warne and Rogers, perhaps!

by Henry Fri 05 Sep 2008, 08:06

Chandan, i'm always inspired by the huge amount of confidence and belief that you have in the Indian cricket team.

by lardbucket Fri 05 Sep 2008, 08:58

Chandan wrote:
skully wrote:I have to agree that Jaques fills me with no confidence from a technique perspective but if he churns out the runs then he'll obviously stay.

Fleas is only a stop-gap at opener. He will probably fill Roy's vacant middle-order spot for India.

I guess the question becomes does Fleas stay as opener if Hayden is not fit, and bring in Not Paris in the middle order, or do they blood someone like Bog?

India is not really the place to blood a new Test opener.

And I hope your optimism in young Hughes is proven, h.

In fact India is the place best for every newcomer. I just can't remember more than 2 debutants who have failed against India, be it a bowler or a batsman, an opener or middle-order bat, a seamer or a spinner.

A debut against India is a sure shot ton for a batsman and a 5 fer for a bowler.

The only two debutants who failed against India are Warne and Rogers, perhaps!

You weren't born in 1977-78, were you?

by Nath Fri 05 Sep 2008, 10:36

Chandan wrote:
skully wrote:I have to agree that Jaques fills me with no confidence from a technique perspective but if he churns out the runs then he'll obviously stay.

Fleas is only a stop-gap at opener. He will probably fill Roy's vacant middle-order spot for India.

I guess the question becomes does Fleas stay as opener if Hayden is not fit, and bring in Not Paris in the middle order, or do they blood someone like Bog?

India is not really the place to blood a new Test opener.

And I hope your optimism in young Hughes is proven, h.

In fact India is the place best for every newcomer. I just can't remember more than 2 debutants who have failed against India, be it a bowler or a batsman, an opener or middle-order bat, a seamer or a spinner.

A debut against India is a sure shot ton for a batsman and a 5 fer for a bowler.

The only two debutants who failed against India are Warne and Rogers, perhaps!

Zimmy's buddy Paul Wilson. Brad Hogg had an auspicious debut too.

by doremi Fri 05 Sep 2008, 12:34

Chandan is mostly right though. We are great people to debut against.

by Chandan Fri 05 Sep 2008, 13:20

Henry wrote:Chandan, i'm always inspired by the huge amount of confidence and belief that you have in the Indian cricket team.

The confidence has built up after watching how easy we make things for debutants.

Remember in 2002 series vs England India let two English bowlers prosper: Jones and Harmi.

In 2004, Clarke had a phenomenal success in India. In 2006, Monty was really successful and this year, the less we say about Mendis, the better, isn't it?

by doremi Sat 06 Sep 2008, 12:31

Don't think any of Jones, Harmi or Monty had 'great' debuts, but they had good ones. But Clarke, Mendis, Samuels, and so many more do.

by Chandan Tue 09 Sep 2008, 06:26

doremi wrote:Don't think any of Jones, Harmi or Monty had 'great' debuts, but they had good ones. But Clarke, Mendis, Samuels, and so many more do.

So you've forgotten the 5-fer that Jones took at Lords 2002 and the sudden collapse that Harmi induced and forced India to fight for survival and they only did so by a threadbare at Trent Bridge in 2002?

What is great debut for a bowler then?

by G.Wood Tue 09 Sep 2008, 06:37

Chandan wrote:
doremi wrote:Don't think any of Jones, Harmi or Monty had 'great' debuts, but they had good ones. But Clarke, Mendis, Samuels, and so many more do.

So you've forgotten the 5-fer that Jones took at Lords 2002 ?

I think everyone has, including the official scorers

by skully Tue 09 Sep 2008, 06:42

Aye. Jones took 2-61 and 2-68 on debut v India at Lords

by Chandan Tue 09 Sep 2008, 06:45

Ok. Sorry!!

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