Re: 'Don't skip IPL,' Sri Lankan Board told

[SG]

it's got artificial made up teams a year old and a shed load of money thrown at it.

Just because Eng players aren't part of it (for the first edition atleast) doesn't mean that its unimportant for all the other players.

[JKLever]

it's got artificial made up teams a year old and a shed load of money thrown at it.

Just because Eng players aren't part of it (for the first edition atleast) doesn't mean that its unimportant for all the other players.

$$$$$$$$$

[JKLever]

After all the IPL is more important than test cricket isn't it....

Which event was conceived earlier?

IPL or Eng-SL test series?

Which event was signed for by SL players first?

and this is the very reason why we should ban India.

Test cricket was concieved the earliest I believe, just by the odd 120 years

[taipan]

And some think their contracts with the SL board predate their ICL contracts

[The One]

Makes you proud to be Indian, no doubt....

Irrelevant to present discussion.

BTW why should SL players leave their booty from IPL? Just because ECB wants to fill in the void created by Zim siatuation? So that SLC gets 1m pounds from ECB for this tour?

Because test cricket should be the highest honour and level you can achieve in the game? And should be above a barrell load of cash?

Is this so difficult to understand why people think the BCCI in creating this monster are fecking over the rest of world cricket?

Ban India

the bcci didnt create t20s. or odis for that matter

there is no logical reason test cricket should remain the supreme form of the game. it has remained so for 120 years and may for another 10 or so years. but 30 years down the line it may well not be so. money comes from advertisers. advertisers put in money where they see more popularity. if its popular it means more people want to see that form of the game. you cant force people who dont like test cricket to watch it, just as no one forces anyone to watch t20s. and the players have a choice which format they prefer or not

[SG]

the bcci didnt create t20s. or odis for that matter

Ban ECB then.

[SG]

there is no logical reason test cricket should remain the supreme form of the game. it has remained so for 120 years and may for another 10 or so years. but 30 years down the line it may well not be so. money comes from advertisers. advertisers put in money where they see more popularity. if its popular it means more people want to see that form of the game. you cant force people who dont like test cricket to watch it, just as no one forces anyone to watch t20s. and the players have a choice which format they prefer or not

Yep, you just can't dictate what format should one watch and what format would one play. Its all depends on individual choice.

[SG]

This is like someone actually suggesting in India to watch more hockey matches and shun seeing cricket matches to enhance hockey's popularity in India and to let it regain its old prominence. Thats not possible.

[JKLever]

If you can't see how test crickets demise would be bad for the game, then there's very little hope left i'm afraid...

[taipan]

If you can't see how test crickets demise would be bad for the game, then there's very little hope left i'm afraid...

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[JKLever]

Makes you proud to be Indian, no doubt....

Irrelevant to present discussion.

BTW why should SL players leave their booty from IPL? Just because ECB wants to fill in the void created by Zim siatuation? So that SLC gets 1m pounds from ECB for this tour?

Because test cricket should be the highest honour and level you can achieve in the game? And should be above a barrell load of cash?

Is this so difficult to understand why people think the BCCI in creating this monster are fecking over the rest of world cricket?

Ban India

the bcci didnt create t20s. or odis for that matter

There's nothing wrong with T20 cricket - but the ECB's T20 didn't fark over other countries international sides in the process of setting up a domestic tournament.

Anyhow - we're not going to agree. The BCCI & IPL is the greatest in yours & SG's eyes and can do no wrong. Test cricket should die and all international cricket should be played in India.

Long live India and fark the rest...

Got to go, got some work to do!!!

[Merlin]

there is no logical reason test cricket should remain the supreme form of the game. it has remained so for 120 years and may for another 10 or so years. but 30 years down the line it may well not be so. money comes from advertisers. advertisers put in money where they see more popularity. if its popular it means more people want to see that form of the game. you cant force people who dont like test cricket to watch it, just as no one forces anyone to watch t20s. and the players have a choice which format they prefer or not

PMSL ... A humourous and singularly Indian mentality .... a conclusion reached after a massive Quantum Leap of both imagination and Murphy's Law, purely based upon the limited experience of ONE IPL tournament on the sub-continent which, in an Indian's mind-set means the absolute future of cricket!
FFS -

TO never ceases to amuse .... Modi in disguise perhaps ... the perfect propagandist for the bing-bang-bosh circus brigade!!

[The One]

If you can't see how test crickets demise would be bad for the game, then there's very little hope left i'm afraid...

good/bad is your personal choice. i prefer watching tests as well, but i am not stupid or arrogant enough to think everyone should like what i like as well. if test cricket takes a back-seat due to t20s its because of the fans, not anyone else

[Merlin]

...but i am not stupid or arrogant enough to think everyone should like what i like ...

You certainly don't hold back in giving that impression.

[The One]

maybe you just have some comprehension problems

[doremi]

The ICC have authority over SL, not the BCCI. This isn't any of their business at all. They're not the US yet, thankfully.

And politics aren't being taken into account this time either. Same as in the Zim situation.

Umm if i'm not mistaken, the SPORTS MINISTER for the Sri Lankan Government is involved - this isn't politics then????

And yes the ICC has an authority, the ICC is also strangely made up of a block of nations whom back the BCCI's money making machine, and therefore strangely will be very quite on this issue, as opposed to the Zim issue.

Wash Hands - knew it was coming.

Ofcourse it is politics. But it isn't being considered as a factor. Same as in Zim. And Pak ftm.

And the Zim issue and this issue are so randomly connected by you, that it's actually ridiculous.

[doremi]

After all the IPL is more important than test cricket isn't it....

No. The SL players losing money so that the ECB can fill their pockets is ofcourse quite understandable...

[doremi]

There's nothing wrong with T20 cricket - but the ECB's T20 didn't fark over other countries international sides in the process of setting up a domestic tournament.

Neither is the IPL. The Saffies, WIndians, NZers, Aussies all came and went as it suited the international calendar.

[doremi]

And btw, I don't think test cricket is weak enough to die out because of a 2 month long T20 tournament.

[Guest]

I just dont want to see cricket go the way of European football. Much as i like football, the commercial aspect has destroyed much of what is good about it. I know both games need money and wouldnt exist without it, when it becomes the driving force it ruins the game.

I hate watching football and seeing players dive, pretend they are injured, surround the referee, claim corners/free kicks/throw ins/penalties even when its obvious its not theirs, appeal for cards, cynically foul people, become mercenaries, encroach on the free kicks, wander up the touchline before taking a throw in, push each other round in the box and just blatantly cheat.

Thats exactly what cricket DOESNT NEED.

[JKLever]

There's nothing wrong with T20 cricket - but the ECB's T20 didn't fark over other countries international sides in the process of setting up a domestic tournament.

Neither is the IPL. The Saffies, WIndians, NZers, Aussies all came and went as it suited the international calendar.

But are you that blind to see that a test tour by SL is in doubt because of IPL? Doesn't matter it was scheduled late it should still take precedence. NZ & BANG have lost players due to ICL and IPL's insistence on having them banned.

There was talk of Gayle the captain of the WI missing a test against Australia to play in IPL. As it turns out he wasn't fit anyway I think....

Take the blinkers off.

[doremi]

There was a lot of talk about a lot of players. All of it was absolute bullshit.

NZ have lost Bond to their own stupidity. Bangladesh players have defected because they're dissatisfied with the system, by their own admission. And anyways, they've made an informed conscious decision, and they're earning bucketloads. The ICL wouldn't have been as flexible as the IPL when it came to the international calendar. And furthermore, the BCCI, whatever their financial power, cannot ban or unban players from other countries. The other boards banned them, the ICC agreed. And there was no other way the BCCI could have reacted to the ICL. Are you so blind as not to see that?

And I still don't get why the ECB filling their pockets should take precedence over the SL players filling theirs. They were going to miss the IPL in 2011, or whenever the tour was originally scheduled. So test cricket did take precedence. Also, there's absolutely nothing stopping them from playing in England. One word from the SL board and no player would be picked for the IPL. Akhtar last year was ample proof of that.

[JKLever]

And I still don't get why the ECB filling their pockets should take precedence over the SL players filling theirs. They were going to miss the IPL in 2011, or whenever the tour was originally scheduled. So test cricket did take precedence. Also, there's absolutely nothing stopping them from playing in England. One word from the SL board and no player would be picked for the IPL. Akhtar last year was ample proof of that.

Blinkered again.

If you are basically saying why shouldn't the SL players be able to fill their pockets in some T20 hitathon rather than play in test cricket, then there's no hope ever convincing you about test cricket merits is there?

And there you have why IPL/ICL/BCCI/The devil incarnate is dangerous for the future of the game.

I can see it in 10 years time after the above bodies have killed off test cricket for their $65 billion mega mega ipl tournament a lightbulb switching on somewhere and somebody saying
' you know this really isn't that skillful is it? How about we play this cricket lark a bit longer so we can see bowlers with skills, dramatac passages of play....'

Ban India

[holcs]

The ICC have authority over SL, not the BCCI. This isn't any of their business at all. They're not the US yet, thankfully.

And politics aren't being taken into account this time either. Same as in the Zim situation.

Umm if i'm not mistaken, the SPORTS MINISTER for the Sri Lankan Government is involved - this isn't politics then????

And yes the ICC has an authority, the ICC is also strangely made up of a block of nations whom back the BCCI's money making machine, and therefore strangely will be very quite on this issue, as opposed to the Zim issue.

Wash Hands - knew it was coming.

Ofcourse it is politics. But it isn't being considered as a factor. Same as in Zim. And Pak ftm.

And the Zim issue and this issue are so randomly connected by you, that it's actually ridiculous.

Do, the link is made purely due to Political interference in this instance, when at the very onset of the Zim affair, there were constant remarks made that politics should not interfere with cricket? That is the link, I don't find it that ridiculous in the slightest.

The worry is that a tour that was made, in order to cover the fall out from the Zim situation is now a joke tour due to a 20:20 hit and giggle - that is apparently a domestic tournament???

Especially when each IPL side has 6 or so Internationals anyway? The problem here is that you'll find that all these players in the IPL are wanted due to being great Test players. Kill Test cricket like SG and TO are happy to do so that the IPL can go ahead, and you have no IPL people.

To be honest I was saying the same thing when the Windies boys were involved before the test series versus Oz. Doesn't matter what the test series is, I find the hilarity of the hypocrisy of this situation - politics are not to be involved when the BCCI might lose a vote on the ICC, but in this instance where the IPL gains from Politics thats fine.

[SG]

Kill Test cricket like SG and TO are happy to do

Exactly where did I say that?

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