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Post by Red Wed 22 Oct 2008, 22:13

It's hard to see him getting a game though.

Hayden will not be dropped regardless of performances, and they'd be loath to rest him if we lost the B-G trophy because he needs time at the crease.

Katich has been consistent enough to earn his spot for the remainder of the series.

Marsh is a project player. He performed well in the IPL but his first class average of 35 remains considerably inferior to that of Hodge and David Hussey.

He is age on his side.
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Post by Basil Thu 23 Oct 2008, 01:24

Please let Marsh open the batting for the first Ashes Test - preferably with Katich
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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 23 Oct 2008, 01:36

"Marsh is a project player."

If Aunt Hilda or anybody else employed by CA ever utters that sentence you know he's doomed....

Matthew Hayden averaged about 60 when he played his first Test, and played his seventh about six years later. Warne's bowling average for Vic before Syd Jan 92 was Haydenesque. First class averages aren't the beginning and and of the story, never have been, and right now I'm happy to see the panel play anybody who's Marsh's age and looks a possibility, and we'll work out if they can play or not when we actually see them in action.

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Post by Basil Thu 23 Oct 2008, 01:40

Fred Nerk wrote:"Marsh is a project player."

If Aunt Hilda or anybody else employed by CA ever utters that sentence you know he's doomed....

Matthew Hayden averaged about 60 when he played his first Test, and played his seventh about six years later. Warne's bowling average for Vic before Syd Jan 92 was Haydenesque. First class averages aren't the beginning and and of the story, never have been, and right now I'm happy to see the panel play anybody who's Marsh's age and looks a possibility, and we'll work out if they can play or not when we actually see them in action.

One for the Glossary surely: Project
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Post by Henry Thu 23 Oct 2008, 02:13

I think Marsh has the potential to be better than both Jaques and Katich. But he seems to be a different player in 4 day cricket. You could almost say he's a shotless crab. Needs to figure out his gameplan a bit better.
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Post by horace Thu 23 Oct 2008, 02:20

a terrific and belated inclusion...he must be played ahead of fleas if we are to take India on
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Post by Henry Thu 23 Oct 2008, 02:22

But he doesn't play his shots in the longer forms of the game, Horrie. It's only in one day cricket and T20 where he shows his full repertoire. He'll be the same as Katich if he opens in the test side.
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Post by horace Thu 23 Oct 2008, 03:47

I doubt he can be mentioned in the same sentence as crabs like Fleas (or bell, cook, dravid etc)
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Post by Henry Thu 23 Oct 2008, 05:07

David Hussey must be pretty pissed off that he didn't get the call. He averages 20 runs per innings more than Marsh in first class cricket, scores at a good rate, and can also bowl handy off spinners in the Symonds mould. Also, Australia already have a backup opener in Michael Hussey.
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Post by horace Thu 23 Oct 2008, 05:12

no point comparing Huss's ave with Marsh- he is a middle order bat
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Post by Henry Thu 23 Oct 2008, 05:13

horace wrote:no point comparing Huss's ave with Marsh- he is a middle order bat

So was Marsh until this season.
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Post by Chandan Thu 23 Oct 2008, 06:00

Henry wrote:
horace wrote:no point comparing Huss's ave with Marsh- he is a middle order bat

So was Marsh until this season.

So why did he become an openner?

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Post by Red Thu 23 Oct 2008, 06:05

Henry wrote:David Hussey must be pretty pissed off that he didn't get the call. He averages 20 runs per innings more than Marsh in first class cricket, scores at a good rate, and can also bowl handy off spinners in the Symonds mould. Also, Australia already have a backup opener in Michael Hussey.

Agree but he didn't prosper in his last three first class innings and Marsh who has performed similarly has age on his side.

As mentioned at the start, I doubt he will actually play test cricket this tour; maybe it's a learning experience.
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Post by Henry Thu 23 Oct 2008, 06:10

Red wrote:
Henry wrote:David Hussey must be pretty pissed off that he didn't get the call. He averages 20 runs per innings more than Marsh in first class cricket, scores at a good rate, and can also bowl handy off spinners in the Symonds mould. Also, Australia already have a backup opener in Michael Hussey.

Agree but he didn't prosper in his last three first class innings and Marsh who has performed similarly has age on his side.

As mentioned at the start, I doubt he will actually play test cricket this tour; maybe it's a learning experience.

All it will take is for Hayden to f*ck up his achilles again and Marsh will be playing.
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Post by horace Thu 23 Oct 2008, 06:11

or sense to prevail and he is selected to replace fleas
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Post by Nath Thu 23 Oct 2008, 07:25

Chandan wrote:
Henry wrote:
horace wrote:no point comparing Huss's ave with Marsh- he is a middle order bat

So was Marsh until this season.

So why did he become an openner?

Rogers left WA to play for Victoria.
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Post by Para Batsman Thu 23 Oct 2008, 08:35

Henry wrote:David Hussey must be pretty pissed off that he didn't get the call. He averages 20 runs per innings more than Marsh in first class cricket, scores at a good rate, and can also bowl handy off spinners in the Symonds mould. Also, Australia already have a backup opener in Michael Hussey.

Spot on Henry. Dussey was the man to replace White also.

Marsh may open the ODI games but if MTB plays well in the next two he could open with Watson.

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Post by Nath Thu 23 Oct 2008, 09:19

Why bother picking MtFTB for the JAMODIs, he'll be gone by the end of next Aust summer (if he even gets that far).
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Post by embee Thu 23 Oct 2008, 09:26

Para Batsman wrote:
Henry wrote:David Hussey must be pretty pissed off that he didn't get the call. He averages 20 runs per innings more than Marsh in first class cricket, scores at a good rate, and can also bowl handy off spinners in the Symonds mould. Also, Australia already have a backup opener in Michael Hussey.

Spot on Henry. Dussey was the man to replace White also.

Marsh may open the ODI games but if MTB plays well in the next two he could open with Watson.

Is ShyTYT injured?
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Post by G.Wood Thu 23 Oct 2008, 23:20

embee wrote:
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Henry wrote:David Hussey must be pretty pissed off that he didn't get the call. He averages 20 runs per innings more than Marsh in first class cricket, scores at a good rate, and can also bowl handy off spinners in the Symonds mould. Also, Australia already have a backup opener in Michael Hussey.

Spot on Henry. Dussey was the man to replace White also.

Marsh may open the ODI games but if MTB plays well in the next two he could open with Watson.

Is ShyTYT injured?

and I know it is massive stretch of the imagination - but isn't ShyTYT there as the spinner so shouldn't he be replaced by a spinner? We could of course go in with 10 batsmen and see if we can make 300
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Post by Henry Fri 24 Oct 2008, 00:35

On what basis have they selected Marsh over D.Hussey? The IPL and a few jamodis against the Windies and Bangladesh? This selection sounds more bizzare all the time. The fact is, for all of his natural gifts (that have mostly been on show in the shorter forms of the game) , Marsh averages 35 in first class cricket.
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Post by embee Fri 24 Oct 2008, 02:38

Henry wrote:On what basis have they selected Marsh over D.Hussey? The IPL and a few jamodis against the Windies and Bangladesh? This selection sounds more bizzare all the time. The fact is, for all of his natural gifts (that have mostly been on show in the shorter forms of the game) , Marsh averages 35 in first class cricket.

Trev

He averaged 60 in FC cricket last season ...He's 25 yo ...and he has a lot of talent ...and someone on the NSP likes him
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Post by Zat Fri 24 Oct 2008, 08:49

Not a bad idea to pick a younger player for some experience in the Test arena. Even if he doesn't play on this tour, he might get a feel for what it's like to be on the road and getting flogged.

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Post by embee Wed 12 Feb 2014, 15:10

Bump for Dan
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 12 Feb 2014, 15:54

Told you so
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