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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 29 Oct 2008, 18:01

GG aka UMB
H Amla aka WG Grace who can't bat
Y Khan aka youless Khan
P Collingwood aka Mr. 3-0 limited ability

A Symonds aka Symo
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Post by Josh Carney Wed 29 Oct 2008, 21:49

What does UMB stand for

Ultimate Master Blaster / Undeniable Main Batsman ???

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Post by LeFromage Wed 29 Oct 2008, 22:43

When did Collingwood "improve"? And what was I doing at the time to miss it?

He's had a shocking year.
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Post by embee Wed 29 Oct 2008, 23:30

UMB is now a Completely Reliable Aussie Basher
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Post by Josh Carney Thu 30 Oct 2008, 00:37

embee wrote:UMB is now a Completely Reliable Aussie Basher
With both the bat and elbow !

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Post by doremi Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:50

Yunis Khan.
MS Dhoni.
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:52

doremi wrote:Yunis Khan.
MS Dhoni.

Dhoni?
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Post by doremi Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:52

You know, our keeper since the last 2 years or so.
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:53

Yes, but don't understand how you can say he has improved.
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Post by doremi Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:56

He was a below average keeper when he came in to the team. Now he's pretty much up there with the best in the world playing right now.
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:58

He scored his first and only ton in his 5th test. He hasn't scored another in his next 26.
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:02

After 11 tests his dismissal per match was at at 3.63. It is now at 2,80.

Some improvement.
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Post by doremi Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:03

Yeah well, he comes in at 7, scores at a good rate. He'll get a few tons in the future. Also has improved as a batsman. Also, I was mainly talking about his keeping.
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:12

doremi wrote:Yeah well, he comes in at 7, scores at a good rate. He'll get a few tons in the future. Also has improved as a batsman. Also, I was mainly talking about his keeping.

His batting average has dropped. His dismissal average has dropped.

Once again, how does that make him one of the most improved players in the world?
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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:34

Ishant Sharma
Zaheer Khan
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Post by Merlin Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:36

Ian Bell.
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:37

Mick Sawyer wrote:Ishant Sharma
Zaheer Khan

But has Ishant improved? He seems to have been the same since he burst onto the scene.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:37

Merlin wrote:Ian Bell.




















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The chasers just need follow the giggling
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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 30 Oct 2008, 12:39

taipan wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:Ishant Sharma
Zaheer Khan

But has Ishant improved? He seems to have been the same since he burst onto the scene.

I think he has mate. More consistently at the batsman, reverse swinging after 6 or 8 overs & a greater number of unplayables.
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Post by doremi Fri 31 Oct 2008, 11:38

taipan wrote:
doremi wrote:Yeah well, he comes in at 7, scores at a good rate. He'll get a few tons in the future. Also has improved as a batsman. Also, I was mainly talking about his keeping.

His batting average has dropped. His dismissal average has dropped.

Once again, how does that make him one of the most improved players in the world?

Dismissal average doesn't really prove anything either way. It's as meaningless as rankings and Boucher's max dismissal record. You'd have to actually watch him play. Same goes for batting.
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Post by JKLever Fri 31 Oct 2008, 11:40

Stuart Broad.

After the 6 sixes in an over mauling at the T20 WC, he's become a gun in one day cricket.

Fingers crossed he can transfer it into the longer version too.
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Post by taipan Fri 31 Oct 2008, 11:42

doremi wrote:
taipan wrote:
doremi wrote:Yeah well, he comes in at 7, scores at a good rate. He'll get a few tons in the future. Also has improved as a batsman. Also, I was mainly talking about his keeping.

His batting average has dropped. His dismissal average has dropped.

Once again, how does that make him one of the most improved players in the world?

Dismissal average doesn't really prove anything either way. It's as meaningless as rankings and Boucher's max dismissal record. You'd have to actually watch him play. Same goes for batting.

Boucher is a far better keeper. So batting averages are meaningless?
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Post by doremi Fri 31 Oct 2008, 11:48

No, I said you'd have to watch him play to see that he has improved. Dismissal per match ratio is meaningless. It's more or less how effective your bowlers are at making the batsman edge it behind.

As for Boucher being the better keeper, probably but I have my doubts. That has nothing to do with how much Dhoni has improved.
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Post by taipan Fri 31 Oct 2008, 11:49

So his batting hnas improved even though his average has dropped?
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Post by spangler Fri 31 Oct 2008, 13:07

taipan wrote:

Boucher is a far better keeper.

Bollox he is.
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