Melbourne Cup

by embee Mon 03 Nov 2008, 16:56

1 degree of separation

3rd to a Cup runner

My tips

Profound Beauty
Bauer
Master OReilly
Yellowstone
Mad Rush

by horace Mon 03 Nov 2008, 17:03

track will have a bit of give in it...a little bit of rain around...shd suit the os horses...the irish have a mortgage on this

by Bradman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 17:43

I'd go for Septimus as the trainer has more or less said the pace will be on (i.e he's gonna throw the rules of Oz racing out the window) but he's lumping a bit.

As I backed against Mayke Diva three years running I would suggest you check with your astrologer this year.

by horace Mon 03 Nov 2008, 17:45

even tho there are rules agin it ...I have examined the slit entrails of an RD (a goat) and Septimus it is

by Bradman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 17:48

He's got the grandstand on his back and even Vintage Crop couldn't do it.

by horace Mon 03 Nov 2008, 17:50

he is better than VC...and this is an ordinairy field

by Para Batsman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:13

Bradman wrote:I'd go for Septimus as the trainer has more or less said the pace will be on (i.e he's gonna throw the rules of Oz racing out the window) but he's lumping a bit.

As I backed against Mayke Diva three years running I would suggest you check with your astrologer this year.

I swore Mayke Diva couldn't carry 58.5 in her last win in the Cup but she did.

58.5 to Septimus is a featherweight he has carried 62.1 and 63.5 in his last two wins against the best. Profound Beauty has a pull in the weights but unproven.

Overall record 8 wins and a second from 12 starts and his losses were in unsuitable races early on.

Now the sting is out he should bolt in.

Google 'centrebet' select the top URL and hit form guide at bottom left for your fancies

by Bradman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:22

It's what they can carry in their first cup.

VC got like 55.5 when he should''ve had a lot more.

The following year he ran a pretty good third, still without the weight he should've bee carrying.

I expect Septimus to finish in the last third despite his stablemates trying to (illegally) make the running for him.

by Para Batsman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:41

Bradman wrote:It's what they can carry in their first cup.

VC got like 55.5 when he should''ve had a lot more.

The following year he ran a pretty good third, still without the weight he should've bee carrying.

I expect Septimus to finish in the last third despite his stablemates trying to (illegally) make the running for him.

Sometimes they throw a hissie fit and miss the kick but O'Brien knows what the Cup is all about and Septimus is a first upper as well.

I'll be surprised if he beats himself and he should box seat it all the way as that's his style and he has won easily over 3600m.

The track is still a worry. Let it rain a bit more yet.

by Nath Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:48

Yellowstone scratched. Field down to 22.

by Bradman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:54

I think you missed the illegal bit. It may be common practice in the mother country but I would hope if they're is a pacemaker from the same stable and that pace maker comes stone motherless last all the stable horses bare disqualified.

by Red Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:57

Septimus is polarising the racing community, they either regard him as unbeatable or no chance.

by JGK Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:58

Zipping and Barbaricus for me.

Although I haven't backed a MC winner for about 25 years.

by JGK Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:00

Bradman wrote:I think you missed the illegal bit. It may be common practice in the mother country but I would hope if they're is a pacemaker from the same stable and that pace maker comes stone motherless last all the stable horses bare disqualified.

Now THAT would be a sensation. I reckon the trainer will call the VRC's bluff on that.

by Red Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:00

Yellowstone has just been scratched. It won't please Peacock's daughter.

by JGK Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:01

The cricketing link is Bauer who is part owned by Simon O'Donnell.

by Mick Sawyer Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:10

Septimus, Mad Rush & 4 yet to be confirmed others will be doing their bit to swing the entire trifecta pool my way.

by Para Batsman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:11

Bradman wrote:I think you missed the illegal bit. It may be common practice in the mother country but I would hope if they're is a pacemaker from the same stable and that pace maker comes stone motherless last all the stable horses bare disqualified.

Pacemakers have been used for years in Australia. The difference is they are teed up from another stable.

Gordon Spinks tells me many stories. One was how three of them got together to keep Baguette wide with Quinton on board. They were all Theo Green's boys and simply wanted to teach Ronnie a lesson.

by Paul Keating Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:58

I'm on Zipping.

I hope to repeat my Box Trifecta fluke in 2006.

Master O'Reilly and Littorio to round out the place getters.

Geez that would pay a huge dividend.

by Nath Mon 03 Nov 2008, 20:02

Red wrote:Yellowstone has just been scratched. It won't please Peacock's daughter.

by JGK Mon 03 Nov 2008, 20:03

Sh1t, for a moment there I thought you said "I'm unzipping..."

by WideWally Mon 03 Nov 2008, 20:39

I'm backing Mad Rush & Zipping..........

........ and including Nom Du Jeu, Septimus, Barbaricus & Littorio in the placings for trifectas & first fours.

However, that could all change if the track gets wetter. C'est La Guerre & Viewed both grow a leg in the mud.

Victorian tote prices
http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Betting/StandardBets/PlaceStandardBet.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=M&RacingCode=R&FromDate=2008-11-04T00:00:00&BetType=Win&RaceNumber=07

Form
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/rvl/racing.race.view.cmd?RACE_ID=145846
Click on the horse's name for more detailed form

by WideWally Mon 03 Nov 2008, 20:42

...... and if you lose heaps in the Cup, you can get it back in the following race on Electromotive if the track is okay.
geek

by Bradman Mon 03 Nov 2008, 20:53

Use 'Zipping' as a banker than fill it out with omen stuff off nath's avatar.

Either that or study the form religiously and get burnt anyway.

by Merlin Mon 03 Nov 2008, 21:15

Of the European entries :

Septimus might be all the rage, but lumping top weight over 2 miles doesn't excite.
Johnny Murtagh however is riding at the top of his game right now.

Alessandro Volta at 40/1 seems a very tasty each way wager. carrying 7.13, he's a battle hardened 3 yo who did well in decent fields in both the Epsom and Irish Derby's and the GP de Paris over at Longchamp. First time over 2M however ... but he is bred to stay.

It's unlikely Septimus will have a pacemaker. Although trained by O'Brien, his other two in the race are owned by Magnier/Tabor, and those guys don't generally offer their nags out to front run for another owner regardless of having the same trainer.
Alessandro Volta might however pacemake for Honolulu.... but IMO he's better than Honolulu

Of the two Cumani horses, Mad Rush has been more consistent in better company than Bauer ...

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