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Post by embee Tue 04 Nov 2008, 04:49

Seven just showed the finishing order , Ponts

Will probably be on the web soon

Mad Rush 7th
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Post by JGK Tue 04 Nov 2008, 04:51

embee wrote:not yet , ponts

Honolulu was last


What a surprise after some early pace making for Septimus.

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Post by JGK Tue 04 Nov 2008, 04:54

First four paid nearly $600k!

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Post by Hass Tue 04 Nov 2008, 04:54

I had $20 dollars on Bauer for the win.

The nostril hair of that Bart Cummings nag cost me $456.

Not Happy Jan!

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Post by JGK Tue 04 Nov 2008, 04:56

Imagine how Simon O'Donnell feels - it probably cost him $250k.

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Post by Fred Nerk Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:00

Most Irish jokes are even older than Bart Cummings but we saw a new one today.....

Drew Morphett has just broken the news AOB and the jockeys who rode his three horses will all be kept in after school today while their tactics are investigated.

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Post by embee Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:01

The tactics that were discussed on this thread last night ....
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Post by JGK Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:06

Fred Nerk wrote:Most Irish jokes are even older than Bart Cummings but we saw a new one today.....

Drew Morphett has just broken the news AOB and the jockeys who rode his three horses will all be kept in after school today while their tactics are investigated.


Who were the 3 horses - Septimus, Honolulu and ???

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Post by embee Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:07

Alessandro Volta
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Post by embee Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:08

Bradman wrote:It's what they can carry in their first cup.

VC got like 55.5 when he should''ve had a lot more.

The following year he ran a pretty good third, still without the weight he should've bee carrying.

I expect Septimus to finish in the last third despite his stablemates trying to (illegally) make the running for him.

Is qm3 a steward?
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Post by Fred Nerk Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:09

Mondo Alessandro or something.

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Post by JGK Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:09

Ah - Allesandro Volta - those 3 filled 3 of the last 4.


Although there is a bit of a dispute here on the payout for last on the sweep. Honolulu was last across the line but Gallopin didn't finish - who "wins"?

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Post by WideWally Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:17

From the New Zealand TAB site -

Race 7 EMIRATES MELBOURNE CUP (FLEMINGTON R7) 3200 m Index
Stake: $5,650,000
Track: GOOD Weather: FINE
# Name Jockey/Driver/Trainer Win Place
10 Viewed Blake Shinn 46.50 14.00
12 Bauer Corey Brown 6.50
4 C'est La Guerre Brett Prebble 7.80

Bet Type Runners Dividend
Quinella 10, 12 553.20
Treble 3/1/10 6633.00
Trifecta 10:12:4 28994.90

ALSO RAN: 2-Master O'Reilly-Vlad Duric (n/aL),
18-Profound Beauty-Glen Boss (n/aL),
24-Moatize-Clare Lindop (n/aL),
8-Mad Rush-Damien Oliver (n/aL),
5-Nom du Jeu-Jeff Lloyd (n/aL),
7-Zipping-Danny Nikolic (n/aL),
17-Newport-Chris Symons (n/aL),
9-Ice Chariot-Michael Rodd (n/aL),
15-Guyno-Craig Newitt (n/aL),
11-Littorio-Steven King (n/aL),
20-Varevees-Craig Williams (n/aL),
13-Boundless-Greg Childs (n/aL),
19-Red Lord-Nicholas Hall (a) (n/aL),
21-Prize Lady-Mark Sweeney (n/aL),
1-Septimus-Johnny Murtagh (n/aL),
23-Barbaricus-Stephen Baster (n/aL),
22-Alessandro Volta-Wayne Lordan (n/aL),
3-Honolulu-Colm O'Donoghue (n/aL),
14-Gallopin-James Winks (Failed to finish).

Note: Numbers shown are the distance from winner in lengths.
Winning Margins: Nse, 2L, n/a
Owners: Dato Tan Chin Nam
Trainer: Bart Cummings, Flemington
Breeding: 5 h Scenic (IRE)-Lovers Knot (NZ)
Scratched: 6-Yellowstone, 16-Zarita.
SUB: 8
Winners Time: 3:20.40

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Post by JGK Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:31

Fred Nerk wrote:Most Irish jokes are even older than Bart Cummings but we saw a new one today.....

Drew Morphett has just broken the news AOB and the jockeys who rode his three horses will all be kept in after school today while their tactics are investigated.


BTW - is this a wind up or is it really happening.

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Post by embee Tue 04 Nov 2008, 05:35

Seven said the stewards wanted a word with the jockeys about "team riding"
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Post by Bradman Tue 04 Nov 2008, 06:27

It shouldn't be a joke JGK. That lot should be warned off for life if only being arrogant enough to advertise what they were doing and stupid enough to think it might work on a harder track on a hot day.
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Post by Merlin Tue 04 Nov 2008, 08:16

embee wrote:Seven said the stewards wanted a word with the jockeys about "team riding"

Pah, I wouldn't worry too much.
The three Irishmen set the race up for the rest of the field by cutting their own throats with the gallop they raised over the first mile!
I've yet to see an Aiden O'Brien pace setting race work out in their favour - it's just his mind set, I'm sure.

Just saw a recording of the race.... couldn't believe WTF Alessandro Volta's jock was upto - flew down the outside,
six deep at 45 kmph just to grab the lead to set the pace! FFS ... Honolulu was being ridden a mile out and Septimus
just wasn't racing freely ... I tore up my ticket on A Volta a mile and a half from the winning post ...
What happened to Zipping fellas ...?!!! At least Volta gave me a race to cheer for a mile ! Wink
Great ride on Viewed - pinched the race at the 200M marker - but tough on Luca Cumani with Bauer - twice
coming second in the Cup in consecutive years!

I imagine followers of Bart Cummings must've cleaned up again!
Great record - 12 Cup wins and 250 Grade 1 wins - but WTF does he bitch so much about foreign horses in the Cup?!!

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Post by Paul Keating Tue 04 Nov 2008, 09:11

WideWally wrote:...... and if you lose heaps in the Cup, you can get it back in the following race on Electromotive if the track is okay.
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I lost that race too.

There is always next year.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:16

Merlin wrote:VC was a brilliant distance racehorse who won several Group 1 races over here with big weights onboard before taking a Melbourne Cup (had a bad journey across to Oz AND hadn't raced for 7 weeks prior to the Cup) ... not a bad feat!
I don't for one moment agree with your belief that he'd "struggle" against this lot were he at the peak of his form.

aye! Vintage Crop was a great horse.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:18

He was confirmed to run yesterday afternoon and his jockey, Johnny Murtagh, could not resist an opportunity to have a go at the locals.

"You know the Australians think they're the best in the world so to come down here and beat them in their backyard, I'm really looking forward to it," he said.

hmmmmmmm - wonder if he hung out for long in the jock's room post race?
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Post by Mick Sawyer Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:23

but WTF does he bitch so much about foreign horses in the Cup?!!

Stops him from having another one or two of his own in.
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Post by skully Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:27

Is it just me or is the great race losing it's gloss? I was in the first day of a tedious 3 day management training course today and nobody even looked like piping up to say "the race is about to start".
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Post by Merlin Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:27

John Egan fined A$8,000 by referring to Racing Victoria's vets as "tin-pot Hitlers" in a local TV interview!
"I was frustrated at the public and press all saying how to train him, ride him, vet him ..." was his excuse - (referring to Yellowstone, trained by Aussie turned Brit Jane Chapple-Hyam).

A 20,000 mile round trip for no ride and a £3,500 fine on top!
This guy never learns when to keep his mouth shut!! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Mick Sawyer Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:30

skully wrote:Is it just me or is the great race losing it's gloss? I was in the first day of a tedious 3 day management training course today and nobody even looked like piping up to say "the race is about to start".

they where all looking fo your leadership skull. Didn't ya learn anything about management before lunch?
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Post by skully Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:49

Mick Sawyer wrote:
skully wrote:Is it just me or is the great race losing it's gloss? I was in the first day of a tedious 3 day management training course today and nobody even looked like piping up to say "the race is about to start".

they where all looking fo your leadership skull. Didn't ya learn anything about management before lunch?
These are gab-fests full of cliches and recounting of the lecturer's life experiences. I rarely learn any new tools and generally spend most of the time swapping management tips with in workgroups. But lunch is good and it gets away from the normal grind for a few days, so what the hey.

Personally, IDGAF about the MC these days and it slipped my mind when 3.30 got close. Meh.
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