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Post by PlanetPakistan Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:19

Even Aggers

“There will be cricket lovers in Pakistan who, with some justification, might ponder whether England would have played there under similar circumstances.

Indeed, we must not lose sight of the political game that has had a major influence here, with the ECB desperate to improve its relationship with its counterpart, the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI).

It could also be argued that those England players who have an eye on signing a lucrative Indian Premier League contract might have appeared hypocritical to have opted out now, but appeared for an Indian franchise in three months. “

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/7770382.stm
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Post by horace Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:25

good for aggers...australia only refused to play in Pakistan because the Oz high commissioner to Pak owned shares in an IPL franchise and gave a hysterical security warning...she was a disgustoid Little Johnny Howard appointment who made a motza from the pill in the petrol tank fraud and reinvested her ill gotten gains in the IPL
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Post by PlanetPakistan Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:27

PAK tour still on for you Hori?
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Post by Zat Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:27

Cricket, laced with inconsistencies and hypocricy. Whodathunkit?

Maybe I should stop taking notice of any of the off field BS and only worry about the games on the pitch.

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Post by Rachel Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:28

I can't really argue against this view. It's not just England who are hypocritical, though, as Horrie says.

I can't help thinking that the 'senior players' were not making a decision about going to India in 2008, but were thinking ahead to Spring 2009...
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Post by JKLever Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:29

As far as I can recall England have toured Pakistan as recently as 2001 & 2005/6 so I don't know what the fuss is about?

The minute England pull out of a tour of Pakistan fair do's but you can hardly call them hypocrites until then!
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Post by Rachel Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:30

Zat,

Unfortunately, Pakistanis don't have any 'on field' activities to get stirred up about, so it does matter to them (and should to you too). If you are fed up with it, tell Cricket Australia.

They could drop a nuclear bomb in Melbourne and there would still be opponents queueing up to take part in the Boxing Day Test.


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Post by PlanetPakistan Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:30

Zat wrote:Cricket, laced with inconsistencies and hypocricy. Whodathunkit?

Maybe I should stop taking notice of any of the off field BS and only worry about the games on the pitch.
Brilliant idea, i would try to do the same.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:33

JKLever wrote:As far as I can recall England have toured Pakistan as recently as 2001 & 2005/6 so I don't know what the fuss is about?

The minute England pull out of a tour of Pakistan fair do's but you can hardly call them hypocrites until then!
what the heck Lever




"Pietersen issued a thinly-veiled threat to the England and Wales Cricket Board when he said he would make his own decision if the governing body failed to pull the team out of the competition." - Telegraph
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"Kevin Pietersen says he has serious reservations about travelling to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy later this year amid growing security fears.

"I've definitely got reservations - 100% - about going to Pakistan," the England batsman told BBC Radio 5 Live."


"Kevin Pietersen yesterday spoke out about the England players' reluctance to play in September's Champions Trophy in Pakistan because of security concerns" - Guardian
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"Kevin Pietersen last night hailed the decision of cricket chiefs to postpone September's Champions Trophy in Pakistan until 2009.

Pietersen was one of the most vocal opponents of the competition before he became England captain and confirmed his position had not changed." - The Mirror
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Post by Zat Mon 08 Dec 2008, 23:44

Rachel & PP, thank you for emphasising my point.

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Post by horace Tue 09 Dec 2008, 00:07

PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK tour still on for you Hori?

absolutely PP...will be there around march/april
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Post by JKLever Tue 09 Dec 2008, 00:55

PlanetPakistan wrote:
JKLever wrote:As far as I can recall England have toured Pakistan as recently as 2001 & 2005/6 so I don't know what the fuss is about?

The minute England pull out of a tour of Pakistan fair do's but you can hardly call them hypocrites until then!

what the heck Lever


"Kevin Pietersen says he has serious reservations about travelling to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy later this year amid growing security fears.

"I've definitely got reservations - 100% - about going to Pakistan," the England batsman told BBC Radio 5 Live."


They had 'reservations' about going back to India too. As I said, until England pull out of a tour of Pakistan then you're calling them hypocrites when they haven't even done the deed yet! Especially as they have toured there twice this decade and not been shunted off to Sharjah
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Post by horace Tue 09 Dec 2008, 00:57

stanland is safer than banindia
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Post by OP Tipping Tue 09 Dec 2008, 03:03

For that matter, England played the Ashes series of 2005 within weeks of a major terrorist attack in England.
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Post by Red Tue 09 Dec 2008, 03:23

The hypocrisy is obvious but I don't think that monetary considerations are the sole factor.

Right from the days of Botham's infamous statement about Pakistan and mother-in-laws, teams haven't enjoyed touring there.

Regardless of what the stats say, there also seems to be a feeling that terrorism in Pakistan is more systematically organised.
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Post by furriner Tue 09 Dec 2008, 03:24

Aggers, for goodness' sake, do stop it.

I'll get me coat.
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Post by The One Tue 09 Dec 2008, 03:42

its probably more to do with confidence in security organised by the two governments and presence of terrorists. zardari certainly does not seem to be in charge of his country

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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 09 Dec 2008, 03:45

let's clear this up this very instant ..

India says terrorists came from Pakistan.
Pakistan says terrorists came from Pakistan.

Which country should you tour ? According to Imran since terrorists come from Pakistan, teams should tour only Pakistan because terrorists would want not to lose the 'hearts and minds' of Pakistanis.

It's your call I guess .. Aggers goes with Imran.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 09 Dec 2008, 03:56

Red wrote:The hypocrisy is obvious but I don't think that monetary considerations are the sole factor.

Right from the days of Botham's infamous statement about Pakistan and mother-in-laws, teams haven't enjoyed touring there.

Regardless of what the stats say, there also seems to be a feeling that terrorism in Pakistan is more systematically organised.
if it wasn't such a serious issue then i would have said that you are having a laugh...

but since its a very serious issue i would say you are not on track but atleast we agree on the rather obvious hypocrisy issue.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 09 Dec 2008, 04:01

Frankly Pakistan is doing itself no good, by going on all these tangents.

Pakistani nationalists like Imran, Miandad, Latif cannot claim to 'condemn' the terrorist attacks against fun/peace-loving citizens in Mumbai and then go on to aggresively make points about teams not touring Pakistan.

I guess there is a time and place to make that point, but it's not usually after such a calamity (man-made/inflicted) has been inflicted.

Quite sure I am, that the fact hasn't even crossed the minds of these gents.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 09 Dec 2008, 04:11

horace wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK tour still on for you Hori?

absolutely PP...will be there around march/april
excellent!
Hope you have as good a time as your countryman Henry!
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Post by Invader Zim Tue 09 Dec 2008, 04:16

absolutely PP...will be there around march/april
FFS, hasn't Pakistan suffered enough 😢
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Post by horace Tue 09 Dec 2008, 04:54

PlanetPakistan wrote:
horace wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:PAK tour still on for you Hori?

absolutely PP...will be there around march/april
excellent!
Hope you have as good a time as your countryman Henry!


glawson is no countryman of mine
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Post by taipan Tue 09 Dec 2008, 05:57

Rachel wrote:I can't really argue against this view. It's not just England who are hypocritical, though, as Horrie says.

I can't help thinking that the 'senior players' were not making a decision about going to India in 2008, but were thinking ahead to Spring 2009...

Nice avatar Rachie.
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Post by Cracka Tue 09 Dec 2008, 10:23

I don't think it's fair to compare the situations in India and Pakistan.

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