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Post by skully Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:06

Mebee, h. Age will get Fleas as well, but right now he will be one of the first men selected in the team.
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Post by skully Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:07

And surely you have to respect what the wozzie-dubber has achieved. To fight his way back into the Test squad on sheer weight of runs. It was something that Hayden himself did in the late 90s.
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Post by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:11

"Gideon Haigh was just on and took it to mean Shield, club, country etc. - in other words everything."

I should think he will still honour his contractual commitments to the IPL though, right?
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Post by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:16

BTW, GH, how many Australians have 1000 runs in India at an average over 50?
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Post by Red Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:35

OP Tipping wrote:"Gideon Haigh was just on and took it to mean Shield, club, country etc. - in other words everything."

I should think he will still honour his contractual commitments to the IPL though, right?

Of course.
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Post by embee Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:39

OP Tipping wrote:BTW, GH, how many Australians have 1000 runs in India at an average over 50?

Warne from his 7th to his 13th Test there .....

Oh , You meant batsmen
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Post by Zat Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:47

When he was at the height of his powers, I enjoyed watching him. When he walked off the MCG at the Boxing Day Test in 2006 waving his bat to the crowd, I thought he might be planning on calling it quits and was thanking the massive crowd for their support.

Unfortunately, the past six or so months he lost me as a fan because it was obvious that the magic was gone. Sure, he'd fought just to get into the team after an inauspicious start, and fought his way back into the OD team after being dumped 18 months out from the 07 WC, but it was the refusal to admit that time might just have caught up with him that gave me the shits. His 'I'll know when it's time' when several other players before him had been unceremoniously shitcanned by the selectors was arrogance in the extreme.

Sure, I'll remember him as a very good opener, but the memory will be somewhat tarnished. Which wouldn't have happened had he done the smart (TGM, tgm, NLWL, Gilly) thing and gone out leaving the fans wanting more.

Good luck, galoot. Any chance you can take Roy with you?

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Post by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:15

skully wrote:And surely you have to respect what the wozzie-dubber has achieved. To fight his way back into the Test squad on sheer weight of runs. It was something that Hayden himself did in the late 90s.


agreed....but that is where the comparison ends - one is a champ and the other tries very hard
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Post by Henry Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:18

Hayden was not a great of the game.

He was a very good batsman perhaps on a par with Gordon Greenidge.
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Post by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:20

"Sure, I'll remember him as a very good opener, but the memory will be somewhat tarnished. Which wouldn't have happened had he done the smart (TGM, tgm, NLWL, Gilly) thing and gone out leaving the fans wanting more."

Aye. Should've gone at the time Gilchrist did, at the end of the home series against India.
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Post by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:23

agree with the GG parallel....GG was also a champ... two of the greatest openers I have had the pleasure of watching

I rank GG and the galoot ahead of sunny, taylor, dessy h and boycs
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Post by Henry Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:24

Phurt! Robert Craddock has declared that Hayden is Australia's greatest opening batsman. What a lod of shit.


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Post by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:25

OP Tipping wrote:"Sure, I'll remember him as a very good opener, but the memory will be somewhat tarnished. Which wouldn't have happened had he done the smart (TGM, tgm, NLWL, Gilly) thing and gone out leaving the fans wanting more."

Aye. Should've gone at the time Gilchrist did, at the end of the home series against India.

maybe he thought he was 'owed' an extra year or two to make up for his early years in the wilderness
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:26

I liked Slats better.
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Post by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:26

Tributes flow for Hayden, like cold tar through a straw.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/386224.html
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Post by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:27

"Phurt! Robert Craddock has declared that Hayden is Australia's greatest opening batsman. "

Fair enough. He's certainly right up there.
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Post by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:32

yep with ponsford, morris et al
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Post by embee Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:37

OP Tipping wrote:"Sure, I'll remember him as a very good opener, but the memory will be somewhat tarnished. Which wouldn't have happened had he done the smart (TGM, tgm, NLWL, Gilly) thing and gone out leaving the fans wanting more."

Aye. Should've gone at the time Gilchrist did, at the end of the home series against India.

Perhaps he saw Rogers' effort in the WACA Test and thought ....'farque , I'm better than that' ....the others all had replacements* waiting for them to leave ....MacDill/Hogggyyy!!!, Subi/Dung/Jonno , Hattie and Haddn't ...
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Post by Red Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:41

horace wrote:
OP Tipping wrote:"Sure, I'll remember him as a very good opener, but the memory will be somewhat tarnished. Which wouldn't have happened had he done the smart (TGM, tgm, NLWL, Gilly) thing and gone out leaving the fans wanting more."

Aye. Should've gone at the time Gilchrist did, at the end of the home series against India.

maybe he thought he was 'owed' an extra year or two to make up for his early years in the wilderness

His first incarnation tended not to disprove those doubting his technique though. Are any of the Aussie players ever owed anything?
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Post by embee Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:42

Ricky Ponting, Australia's captain
I don't think there's any doubt about that [he is Australia's greatest opener]. You can even look back through the history books of the game and try and see if there's ever been a better opening batsman in the game, let alone Australia.

err... Hobbs for a start ...ya farken drunk two headed eejit
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Post by Guest Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:42

No player is owed anything. It's an honour to represent your country, not a gift or a debt or a right.

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Post by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:52

Clamson wrote:No player is owed anything. It's an honour to represent your country, not a gift or a debt or a right.

true and I made my point in a clumsy manner...more like owed it to himself...

your country awards honours to its players - eg Shermanator MBE
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Post by Henry Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:53

He always struggled when faced with world class fast bowling.
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Post by Paul Keating Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:54

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Post by embee Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:55

Henry wrote:He always struggled when faced with world class fast bowling.

So Bruce Laird is the best opener ever....
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