Re: Hayden calls it a day.

by DJ_Smerk Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:56

Are we still discussing Haydens retirement?

scratch

by skully Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:57

embee wrote:
Ricky Ponting, Australia's captain
I don't think there's any doubt about that [he is Australia's greatest opener]. You can even look back through the history books of the game and try and see if there's ever been a better opening batsman in the game, let alone Australia.

err... Hobbs for a start ...ya farken drunk two headed eejit

Sutcliffe never averaged below 60. He was handy.

Still, to play over 100 Tests and average 50+ as an opener is no mean feat. Well played Galoot.

by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:58

"maybe he thought he was 'owed' an extra year or two to make up for his early years in the wilderness"

Probably he just backed himself to continue well after a good series. Didn't work out... ah well, shit happens.

by embee Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:59

DJ_Smerk wrote:Are we still discussing Haydens retirement?

hard to believe ...page 6 ...and still mostly on topic

by skully Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:02

And relatively few tears from the Banjo contingent.

Where's qmy? I'll get him out of his hole.

Oi Bradman, the big Galoot was only a mere shadow of Tubby Taylor as an opening batsmen.

by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:07

"Oi Bradman, the big Galoot was only a mere shadow of Tubby Taylor as an opening batsmen."

OI....DUCK FOR COVER FOLKS

by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:13

"Oi Bradman, the big Galoot was only a mere shadow of Tubby Taylor as an opening batsmen."

ROFL.

Seinfeld's not a patch on youse.

by PeterCS Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:16

Make that Kramer.

by The One Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:22

the best opening batsman between 2001 and 2006-07

fitting that he doesnt get a proper test match farewell. one of the least liked personalities of the last 15-20 years

by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:27

He's Australia's Harbhajan.

by tac Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:28

OP Tipping wrote:He's Australia's Harbhajan.

or Gangles . . . only better . . .

by Guest Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:30

horace wrote:
Clamson wrote:No player is owed anything. It's an honour to represent your country, not a gift or a debt or a right.

true and I made my point in a clumsy manner...more like owed it to himself...

your country awards honours to its players - eg Shermanator MBE

Sometimes we give your players knighthoods...

by Zat Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:32

Bump.

by Hass Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:39

A cricketer can only play the bowling that's put in front of them.

Perhaps Michael Slater would have been considered greater than Hayden had the Queenslander been chosen in the 90s and the New South Welshman chosen in the 00s.

The point is we'll never know.

When Hayden got a clear run in the team he seized his opportunity. He made his name on the turning tracks of India and pummelled everybody in sight at home. He never dominated IN England, but every player usually has one blemish on their record.

Hayden had the ability to dismantle attacks. That's something the stats book can't show. It's a big part of the reason why I consider him a "great" and not merely a "very good".

by furriner Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:41

horace wrote:agree with the GG parallel....GG was also a champ... two of the greatest openers I have had the pleasure of watching

I rank GG and the galoot ahead of sunny, taylor, dessy h and boycs

By 'Sunny' I presume you mean Gavaskar?

by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:45

You must be the brains of the family.

by furriner Tue 13 Jan 2009, 04:53

I'm an Australian.

So, horrie?

by Zat Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:05

Bump. Again.

by Henry Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:23

He never dominated IN England

Or South Africa, or New Zealand.......sensing a pattern?

by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:30

"New Zealand.......sensing a pattern?"

He sucked against weak teams?

by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:32

furriner wrote:I'm an Australian.

So, horrie?

so?...I am an antique roman?

re gavaskar...he was a great little bat and up there with the real 'goodens'...a bit like border he is valued for his longevity in the game and his toughness...also valued his own wicket with the tenacity of a boycott

by Guest Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:35

World Cup 36*?

Was not born at that time, however he loses a lot of respect for that.

by OP Tipping Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:38

Fair to say that ODIs were not his natural game.

by horace Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:39

OP Tipping wrote:"New Zealand.......sensing a pattern?"

He sucked against weak teams?

and england have hardly been a powerhouse

by furriner Tue 13 Jan 2009, 05:44

horace wrote:
furriner wrote:I'm an Australian.

So, horrie?

so?...I am an antique roman?

re gavaskar...he was a great little bat and up there with the real 'goodens'...a bit like border he is valued for his longevity in the game and his toughness...also valued his own wicket with the tenacity of a boycott

So - you rank Hayden above Gavaskar. Haysus, now I've really heard it all. shrug

Kind of makes me question the validity of whatever else you say.

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