West Indies v England, 5th Test, Port of Spain, Mar 6 - 10

These two will both score hundreds here today and perhaps even compile a 300 or 400 partnership over the next three or four sessions.

TIFFIN IS A QUNT - A WASTE OF FARKING SPACE!!!!!

That was shocking, I wonder if he understands the lbw rule? Don't come much plumber than that and you can't imagine Sarwan will waste that life.

Still, England only have themselves to blame for wasting their referrals. Everybody knows Tiffin is utterly useless.

Since when is clipping the outside of the leg bail plumb?

Since we agreed that Hawkeye is a predictor not a scientific tool.

WIFAN wrote:Since when is clipping the outside of the leg bail plumb?

Err, had the pad not interrupted the trajectory of the ball, would the clipping of the outside of the leg bail be regarded as being out? Or was the bail super-glued on ?

Wobbles.

that is a judgment call. Plumb means dead certain, unforgivably out etc........

Now that's what you call plumb lads.

Amjad you beauty.

I am enjoying his pace if not the Sarwan wicket :|

Lol at SKY showing the side-on of Amjad's action for a full length delivery.

IMHO the closes he comes to pelting is his short pitched deliveries.

Perhaps that's why I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

Thoughts:

England have bowled really really well this morning, the best they have been all tour.

Monty needs to be fined for his appeal against Simmonds that was an utter disgrace. Even Cozier called it intimidating an unacceptable.

Simmonds has only scored 16 so far, but he already looks 10 times better than Ryan Hinds has so far. Regardless of what happens from now, he looks like he belongs and Hinds doesn't.

WIFAN wrote:
Monty needs to be fined for his appeal against Simmonds that was an utter disgrace. Even Cozier called it intimidating an unacceptable.

Not sure how Montay could intimidate anyone..... "brainless" might be a better adjective.

WIFAN wrote:
Monty needs to be fined for his appeal against Simmonds that was an utter disgrace. Even Cozier called it intimidating an unacceptable.

West Indian fans calling of the oppo players for being 'intimidating' is a bit of a joke considering the 70's and 80's
(Not that i'm disagreeing with your point btw)

As for the play, we bowled pretty well on a still otherwise excellent pitch. The next session coming up is absolutely crucial, almost identical to the last test where Ronnie & Shiv took the game away from us.

I was not around for most of our dominance I will have you know!!!!

Monty charging around the middle of the wicket clapping his oversized hands in the umpires face is not acceptable and he has gotten away with it for too long.

what a wasted referral. hit him on middle, hitting middle

Prior = 26 byes (extras already 48 FFS)
Let's hope he's not in the side for his keeping!

Prior up to 95 byes in less than 5 completed innings in the series.

Skills.

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Prior up to 95 byes in less than 5 completed innings in the series.

Skills.

Still preferable to having a tail which starts at 6.

Sloppy stuff from England since the last wicket.

Another one for the match referees office then...................

Still preferable to having a tail which starts at 6.

Hmmmm, not so sure about that!

He's not always going to make big runs, and overall, with his lack of keeping nous, an average giveaway of 20 byes per innings - based on this one - (perhaps a dropped catch or three along the way) will more than counter balance any contribution he might offer with the bat.

Pause for thought methinks.

Merlin wrote:

Still preferable to having a tail which starts at 6.

Hmmmm, not so sure about that!

He's not always going to make big runs, and overall, with his lack of keeping nous, an average giveaway of 20 byes per innings - based on this one - (perhaps a dropped catch or three along the way) will more than counter balance any contribution he might offer with the bat.

Pause for thought methinks.

Some people assume that the "best" keeper wouldn't concede any byes at all when making that kind of comparison. In practice they still will concede some, particularly to wayward bowling.

The psychological effect of a long tail can also be added to the difference between the actual runs scored by the batsman-keeper and specialist keeper. I just don't believe you can carry what is essentially a specialist fielder in a modern-day international side.