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Post by JKLever Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:40

Hmmmm....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/7977879.stm

Morris said: "Our good play in the West Indies is testament to Andy and Andrew Strauss.

Tell me i'm not misreading that?
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:42

Morris in being a clueless qunt shocker.
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Post by Basil Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:45

JKLever wrote:Hmmmm....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/7977879.stm

Morris said: "Our good play in the West Indies is testament to Andy and Andrew Strauss.

Tell me i'm not misreading that?

I would like to think that Hugh Morris was under the affluence of incerhol or some mind-bending halucigenic drug when he said that..........but I fear the worst.
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Post by LeFromage Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:47

Hugh Morris - the man charged with reviving England's fortunes. Good times.

"The results here won't necessarily count against Andy (Flower). We've played some good cricket."

When? Where was I?

"Our good play in the West Indies is testament to Andy and Andrew Strauss. We want someone who can take England forward, not just for the Twenty20 and the Ashes but beyond that.

What are you talking about? The 2004 tour?

"Too often in the past we've created and developed good teams who have done well over a short period of time. We want to create sustainable success."

When did this happen? Too often in which past? The 1920s? What constitutes a "short period of time"? Half a series against Bangladesh?

What a load of bollocks. Surely he must know he's not kidding anyone. Surely. Or perhaps he really does believe we're on the cusp of something special. In which case, he should be put on suicide watch or something; keep him away from any sharp implements.

That level of denial and delusion can only have an unhappy ending.
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Post by LeFromage Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:48

Damn my slow typing...

Nicely merged. Well done, me.


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Post by Basil Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:49

Dooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeddddddddddddd
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Post by JKLever Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:53

Say it's not sooooooo.... :|
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Post by Henry Thu 02 Apr 2009, 02:39

"The ECB have to support the coach as much as we possibly can in terms of the people he wants around him. We've got to be prepared to make decisions and support that person.


Erm, where the f*ck was that support for KP when he stated what he wanted?

Shambles.
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Post by Zat Thu 02 Apr 2009, 02:55

Henry wrote:
"The ECB have to support the coach as much as we possibly can in terms of the people he wants around him. We've got to be prepared to make decisions and support that person.


Erm, where the f*ck was that support for KP when he stated what he wanted?

Shambles.
Indeed. And support the coach? I'm sorry but I don't see many coaches doing the winning. Many would say Australia's winning streak under Buchanan came in spite of his coaching, not because of it. FFS...

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Post by tac Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:07

Aye, zatty, but wouldn't you rather Buck back than this farkin Nielsen character?
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Post by Zat Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:13

Kind of goes without saying. Which is why I didn't say it. But in some set ups the coach is given too much power and influence.

Sure, have someone, or a couple of specialists if you prefer, to correct problems with technique, but that's really about enough.

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Post by tac Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:18

Zat wrote:Kind of goes without saying. Which is why I didn't say it.

Yeah, slate him but want him back . . . goes without saying . . .

zatty in full horrie mode . . .
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Post by Henry Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:19

Just as we want Duncan Fletcher back. In fact, even Peter farkin Moores had more success as coach than Flower has had so far. FFS.
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Post by Zat Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:24

tac wrote:
Zat wrote:Kind of goes without saying. Which is why I didn't say it.

Yeah, slate him but want him back . . . goes without saying . . .

zatty in full horrie mode . . .
You're presented with the option of being poked in one eye with a burning ember, or both eyes with burning embers. Sure, they're two shitty options, but most sane people would choose the first.

The options you gave were Flanders or Leslie. Flanders the lesser of two evils. But a better situation would be what I oulined in the rest of my post.

Is it hard to forum when you have to write it in crayon first?

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Post by tac Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:29

and even fuller horrie mode . . .
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Post by Zat Thu 02 Apr 2009, 03:35

Whatever you say, Jack.
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Post by SG Thu 02 Apr 2009, 05:14

ECB getting desperate?

Kirsten among candidates for England coach

Gary Kirsten, the India coach, is part of a "very short shortlist" of candidates who have been lined by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) to take over as the national team coach, according to reports in the British media.

However, Andy Flower, who is currently the stand-in coach after the sacking of Peter Moores in January, remained the favourite to be appointed as England's new director of cricket, the Guardian and the Telegraph reported.

Kirsten, meanwhile, told Cricinfo in Wellington that the he had not been contacted by the ECB in this regard. "I am not a candidate," he said.

The reports claimed that a four-man ECB panel would interview the candidates on the shortlist at a secret location in the UK. Mickey Arthur, the South Africa coach, was also linked to the process though he said that he remained committed to his national contract till 2011.

The Guardian claimed that apart from Flower, Kirsten, who was offered a two-year contract by the BCCI in December 2007, had emerged as a potential front-runner. Kirsten could be the strongest candidate as he has brought the best out of India after representing South Africa, the Telegraph reported.

"We have had a robust and transparent process," Hugh Morris, managing director of England cricket, told reporters in St Lucia yesterday, "We are pleased with those who have applied. Our interview process will begin when we get home at the weekend with a view to appointing the permanent post before the West Indies series."

Significantly, Morris said that he was impressed with the way Flower managed his role after he took over in diffcult circumstances, following the removal of Moores and Kevin Pietersen as captain. "He has taken the challenges on board, gained the respect of players and management team and done really well," he said.

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Post by DJ_Smerk Thu 02 Apr 2009, 05:31

Personally I'm not confident with any coach that England brings in.

They'll all cock up the system and just add to the Clique motion in place.


You watch Andy Flower re-assign Bell for the 2nd Test against the Windies in May, where he'll score a 80 and 40* and will be assigned an XI slot for the Cardiff Test in July.

It's a shambles to say the Least. English Cricket is going backwards, even more so than usual.
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Post by Henry Thu 02 Apr 2009, 06:55

Surely there is no way England will be able to match what the BCCI are paying Kirsten, whoo has been extremely successful with India so far. Although Kirsten may be playing along a little bit to try and get a pay rise from India.
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Post by doremi Thu 02 Apr 2009, 10:00

There is no way we're letting Kirsten go, after the rave 'reviews' every player (Sachin, Sourav, Dravid, Kumble, Sehwag, Yuvi to name a few) who has said something about him has given him. If that happens I'm suing the BCCI for anti-national activities under the NSA.
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Post by embee Thu 02 Apr 2009, 10:17

You know some flunky at the BCCorIab is going to miss the difference between re-sign and resign
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Post by Merlin Thu 02 Apr 2009, 10:39

Henry wrote:Just as we want Duncan Fletcher back. In fact, even Peter farkin Moores had more success as coach than Flower has had so far. FFS.

Jesus Trev, the poor bugger's only been "in charge" ... well, sort of "In charge" for 2 f**king months ... not knowing whether he's coming, going or just breathing heavily in Piles's company or Dusty's bedroom.
Give the guy a break !

Not saying Flower's the man for the job - but analysing him and then sticking the boot in after one series post ECB inflicted turmoil and disgruntled rumblings from inflated egotisits, is a bit rich!

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Post by Chivalry Augustus Thu 02 Apr 2009, 10:45

Come on guys, Flower's won two matches as coach. I think that's at least worthy of a knighthood.
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Post by JKLever Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:00

Merlin wrote:
Henry wrote:Just as we want Duncan Fletcher back. In fact, even Peter farkin Moores had more success as coach than Flower has had so far. FFS.

Jesus Trev, the poor bugger's only been "in charge" ... well, sort of "In charge" for 2 f**king months ... not knowing whether he's coming, going or just breathing heavily in Piles's company or Dusty's bedroom.
Give the guy a break !

Not saying Flower's the man for the job - but analysing him and then sticking the boot in after one series post ECB inflicted turmoil and disgruntled rumblings from inflated egotisits, is a bit rich!

Agreed, he's not even the official coach. I'd like someone with experience to take the job though really...
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Post by Henry Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:50

Whether Flower is the right man for the job or not, Morris has revealed who the ECB think is more important out of the captain and the coach. He talks about it being important that the coach is given what he wants, and yet KP was sacked for telling them what he wanted at the end of last year. It stinks to be honest.

Imo it should be Captain>Coach.
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