World XI ... One from each country that played tests

Since there are only 10 nations that played test cricket,
2 players from your country, 1 from each of the rest.

Only players from 1990s and later.

G Kirsten (SA)
V Sehwag (Ind)
K Sangakkara (SL)
S Tendulkar (Ind)
S Fleming (NZ)
+ A Flower (Zim)
A Flintoff (Eng)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bang)
W Akram (Pak)
* S Warne (Aus)
C Ambrose (WI)

Barry Richards
Hobbs
Bradman
Sachin
Sanga
Sobers
Flower (w)
Hadlee
Shakib
Wasim
Lillee

surely imran ahead of wasim, even as a pure bowler

Pick your own team, don't pick holes in someone else's.

its ugly aussie day every day it seems

This thread is designed to get SRT into a world team.

philcric wrote:Since there are only 10 nations that played test cricket,
2 players from your country, 1 from each of the rest.

Players form 90s and later.

G Kirsten (SA)
V Sehwag (Ind)
K Sangakkara (SL)
S Tendulkar (Ind)
S Fleming (NZ)
+ A Flower (Zim)
A Flintoff (Eng)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bang)
W Akram (Pak)
* S Warne (Aus)
C Ambrose (WI)

Has to be KP ahead of Flintoff. No-one else in the England side has managed to average close to 50. And he's better than Fleming by a mile.

fleming is a kiwi though. thats probably a harder pick than the bangla or zimmer boys. only other could be bond, but he hardly played any tests

The One wrote:surely imran ahead of wasim, even as a pure bowler

Maybe on average but Wasim was more brilliant and I like his leftiness as a foil to Hadlee and Lillee.

I'd be happy with Immy though.

JKLever wrote:

philcric wrote:Since there are only 10 nations that played test cricket,
2 players from your country, 1 from each of the rest.

Players form 90s and later.

G Kirsten (SA)
V Sehwag (Ind)
K Sangakkara (SL)
S Tendulkar (Ind)
S Fleming (NZ)
+ A Flower (Zim)
A Flintoff (Eng)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bang)
W Akram (Pak)
* S Warne (Aus)
C Ambrose (WI)

Has to be KP ahead of Flintoff. No-one else in the England side has managed to average close to 50. And he's better than Fleming by a mile.

Maybe KP for Fred and Cairns for Flem?

The ICC view is that 11 sides have played test cricket.

J Hobbs (Eng)
R Dravid (Ind)
R Ponting (Aus)
K Pietersen (Eng)
Inzamam Ul-haq (Pak)
A Flower+ (Zim)
K Sangakkara*(Sri)
R Hadlee (NZ)
Shakib (Ban)
M Holding (WI)
A Donald (SAF)

Ponting rather than Bradman as your Aussie bat, Smerky??

Not to mention Dravid over Sunny as opener.

Jontyh wrote:Ponting rather than Bradman as your Aussie bat, Smerky??

only players from 1990s and thereafter ...

Kind of disqualifies Jack Hobbs as well, unless you mean 1890's and after...

Leaving the period thing aside it's hard to see any argument for not having Bradman as your Aussie bat. Bowling is different. McGrath or Warne, depending whether you want spin or seam (you might have Murali as your SL, for example); or Lillee if you want an out and out quick.

philcric wrote:Since there are only 10 nations that played test cricket,
2 players from your country, 1 from each of the rest.

Only players from 1990s and later.

1. Alec Stewart (Eng)
2. Graham Smith (RSA)
3. Graeme Thorpe (Eng)
4. S Tendulkar (Ind)
5. A Flower (Zim)
6. Chris Cairns (NZ)
7. Shakib Al Hasan (Bang)
8. W Akram (Pak)
9. C Ambrose (WI)
10. McGrath (Aus)
11. Murali (SL)

Inclusion of a Bangle makes this problematic.

Virender Sehwag
Saeed Anwar
Kumar Sangakkara
Kevin Pietersen
Andy Flower (wk)
Shakib Al-Hasan
Shane Warne*
Allan Donald
Shane Bond
Curtly Ambrose
Glenn McGrath

Chapter One: Pace like fyuh
Chapter Two: Four number 11s
Chapter Three: No frigging chuckers

JKLever wrote:

philcric wrote:Since there are only 10 nations that played test cricket,
2 players from your country, 1 from each of the rest.

Players form 90s and later.

G Kirsten (SA)
V Sehwag (Ind)
K Sangakkara (SL)
S Tendulkar (Ind)
S Fleming (NZ)
+ A Flower (Zim)
A Flintoff (Eng)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bang)
W Akram (Pak)
* S Warne (Aus)
C Ambrose (WI)

Has to be KP ahead of Flintoff. No-one else in the England side has managed to average close to 50. And he's better than Fleming by a mile.

fred is a bigger match winner imo. however, aruguably, KP/bond (or cairns) is a stronger combo than fred/fleming

on quality / achievements:

lara (just shades ambrose imo), sachin and mcgrath (just shades warne/gilly and clearly better than hayden imo) simply must be in there. the tough choices are between wasim/anwar/inzi, kallis/donald/pollock, KP/fred and cairns/bond. lack of quality openers too.

anwar
sehwag
lara
tendulkar
pietersen
flower +
sakib *
bond
murali
donald
mcgrath

long tail, no all-rounder but iv given preference to quality pace bowlers/batsmen over all-rounders who are inferior bowlers/batsmen (donald > pollock, bond > cairns, KP > flintoff). no obvious pick for captain either.

on talent / personal preference:

sehwag
ashraful
lara
tendulkar
de silva
flower +
flintoff
wasim *
warne
bond
donald

Not as easy a task as it might seem. Not much easier for me being allowed to choose two Aussies.

Finding a Bangladeshi of sufficient quality for inclusion on merit is problematic. Their best batsman has been Habibul Bashar, their best bowler Shakib-Al-Hasan, who also has the second highest batting average of all MMs in Tests. A figure boosted by a run or two by a 96* v the WI lately. Anyway, it seems Hasan could be a useful lower-order hitter, so he gets in on the Aus NSP MJ logic.

There's been plenty of batting around since 1990, likewise bowlers, so who to take as a 'keeper. Candidates would be Healy, Gilchrist, Flower, Boucher, Stewart, Sangakarra, McCullum. Given the trend to keepers needing to have some ability with the bat, Gilchrist adds something that the other blokes don't.

Which leaves me one other Aussie. Given the surfeit of quailty batsmen from around the world, I'll take a bowler. Shane Warne, thanks. IMO he brings more to the team as a bowler than any Aussie batsman would compared to his counterparts.

From there, it's fill in the gaps, and make sure players back to 1990 aren't ignored.

1 Sehwag Ind
2 Smith SA
3 Sangakarra SL
4 Mohammed Yousuf Pak
5 Martin Crowe NZl
6 Andy Flower Zim
7 Gilchrist Aus wk
8 Flintoff Eng
9 Warne Aus (c)
10 Shakib Ban
11 Ambrose WIn

This was pretty difficult. I am West Indian so Lara/Ambrose was pretty easy. Shakib is the only possible Bangladeshi and Flower the only possible Zimbabwean. Fitting in the rest is quite a task. Went for Sehwag over Tendulkar because I wanted an actual opener for the team. Of players I've seen play

Sehwag
Fleming
Sangakarra
Lara
Inzimam
Pietersen
Flower(wk)
Shakib
Ambrose
Mcgrath
Donald.

Zat wrote:Not as easy a task as it might seem. Not much easier for me being allowed to choose two Aussies.

Finding a Bangladeshi of sufficient quality for inclusion on merit is problematic. Their best batsman has been Habibul Bashar, their best bowler Shakib-Al-Hasan, who also has the second highest batting average of all MMs in Tests. A figure boosted by a run or two by a 96* v the WI lately. Anyway, it seems Hasan could be a useful lower-order hitter, so he gets in on the Aus NSP MJ logic.

There's been plenty of batting around since 1990, likewise bowlers, so who to take as a 'keeper. Candidates would be Healy, Gilchrist, Flower, Boucher, Stewart, Sangakarra, McCullum. Given the trend to keepers needing to have some ability with the bat, Gilchrist adds something that the other blokes don't.

Which leaves me one other Aussie. Given the surfeit of quailty batsmen from around the world, I'll take a bowler. Shane Warne, thanks. IMO he brings more to the team as a bowler than any Aussie batsman would compared to his counterparts.

From there, it's fill in the gaps, and make sure players back to 1990 aren't ignored.

1 Sehwag Ind
2 Smith SA
3 Sangakarra SL
4 Mohammed Yousuf Pak
5 Martin Crowe NZl
6 Andy Flower Zim
7 Gilchrist Aus wk
8 Flintoff Eng
9 Warne Aus (c)
10 Shakib Ban
11 Ambrose WIn

Zat,

Martin Crowe can't get in as he hardly played in the 90s. Same for players like Imran and Viv Richards.