Old Movies

I view Kes the same way I view The Wrestler. Techincally decent films but both leave me with absolutely no desire to watch them again.

I might watch Apocalypse Now tonight, wanted to watch Blade Runner but left it at my Mum's house like an idiot. 200+ miles is probably a bit excessive just to pick it up. Though to be fair, if any film is worth driving that far for it would be Blade Runner.

Fair enough. I think that the performance of David Bradley and the beautifully judged naturalism make it an absolute classic.

Jontyh wrote:Fair enough. I think that the performance of David Bradley and the beautifully judged naturalism make it an absolute classic.

Certainly not denying that, I just don't really like films that build your hope up and then crush you, exactly the same way as the Wrestler does (though probably not to the same extent).

If I HAD to choose a top 5, then at the moment it would probably be:

Blade Runner
For a Few Dollars More
Shawshank Redemption (yeah it's cliché I know)
Apocalypse Now
T2

Ah - ok. You have an emotional involvement that you like to be resolved or satisfied. I'm all for films that do that, but I also love the bleak outcome.
I might have included One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest or Betty Blue for the same reason!

Just finished watching Once Upon a Time in the West. I think I can safely say that it's in my top 5 now, utterly incredible.

vilkrang wrote:Just finished watching Once Upon a Time in the West. I think I can safely say that it's in my top 5 now, utterly incredible.

First film that I've watched immediately after watching it the first time. It might just be the best thing ever created.

Ah Vilks is sober.


NAH. Qunt.

Allan D wrote:Prints his name as *****.

Another classic opening brought to mind by the T20 Finals today (why no thread?), John Sturges' hommage to John Ford and Fred Zinneman's High Noon with Frankie Laine vocals instead of Tex Ritter. Lots of opening credits however, don't know what Burt Lancaster thought. The saloon sequence was adapted by Howard Hawks with John Wayne and Dean Martin in his 1959 oater Rio Bravo:

Okay so I'm telling ya this joke:

'I don't like country music, but I don't want to denigrate those who do. For those who like country music, 'denigrate' means put down.'

I thought that was mildly amusing when I told it to a particular group of peeps, supposed enjoyers of all things musical. Well they actually din even get it, the stoooopid sods!! Seriously. Bloody hell, and you reckon This place is inhabited by dipsticks...pfft...you're a bunch of geniuses...

Anyhoo, re the movie: Just another ramble, because well, I've trodden Aussie cricket into the dirt with my stiletto heel and I'm enjoying its screams. I'll let it up when Hilbitch goes.

So, My Darling Clementine is the song from that there movie I believe; and Clementine happens to be my favourite girl-name in the world. Or Clemmie. Very olde-worlde and romantic. When I informed b/f of this, after he threw his head back and laughed he said no future female offspring of his would be called Clementine, or any variation of same. Then he walked off still shrieking.



Okay, sorry for the interruption. Please continue... :silent:

Continuing my current old films (and westerns in particular) just finished watching High Noon.

Probably a bit unfair to view it right after Once Upon a Time in the West, High Noon was good but not on the same level as OUATITW.

At least there was One relevant piece of information (re. a song theme from that movie), in my post, even if well hidden.
Tell me You haven't gone off on a tangent recently, ya funny crazy drunk. Pot. kettle. black.

Uppity Cowboys-and-Indians-ist.

Dear F

shome mishtake shurely

My Darling Clementine comes from the eponymous 1946 John Ford version of the Gunfight at the OK Corral with Henry Ford as Earp. The song is indeed included in that film. I, however, posted a clip from the 1957 John Sturges film starring Burt Lancaster as Wyatt Earp and Kirk Douglas as Doc Holliday entitled after the event in which the traditional song does not appear and the score was specifically written for the film by the great Western composer Dmitri Tiomkin who also penned the score for the 1952 Fred Zinneman film, "High Noon" starring Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly

Best Wishes

Allan D.

Is 'Clementine' not in the original? Does Footsie make mishtakes?? Aw naw!! (That was a Scottish impersonation.)
Since you mentioned the original in passing, I think, I just rambled a bit about that pretty name.
I do love your knowledge though Mr.D, both about cricket and films.

And to really lower the tone of this thread, the one and only Western I ever truly loved was 'Tombstone' with Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday. "I'll be your little Huckleberry." Stole the show for mine.
Kurt Russeell I think was Wyatt. "Tell your friends that I'M comin back and HELL'S comin with me.'

Ya gotta love lines like that.
Unless you're a purist of course.

footwork wrote:Is 'Clementine' not in the original?

It surely is, just not in the 1957 film, "Gunfight at the OK Corral" which was the one I posted (but sadly removed by YouTube, I see).

My favourite line? - has to be from John Ford's last great oeuvre "Who Shot Liberty Valance?":

Ransom Stoddard: You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?
Maxwell Scott: No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

From that quote, nothing much has changed in the journalistic world...

Have just googled the movie and there was another great conversation, about equality, between Pompey and Stoddard.

Think I'll have to watch a few more classic Westerns.

"Unforgiven". Clintwood sat on that movie for years until he thought he could do it justice.

Just gave The Good the Bad and the Ugly another go.

Considering it's seen as the holy grail of westerns I still find myself pretty uninspired by it overall. I mean it IS a great film, but in my opinion it's not even the best film in that trilogy let alone the best western ever.

She wore a Yellow Ribbon is the classic western IMO. A 'Sprawling epic' as they say but full of class and a great story line. Add the typical Wayne style which really defined the whole genre and you have a marvelous movie. What I also like is, although there is lots of violence going on around the movie, you never actually see anyone get killed.

Bradman wrote:"Unforgiven". Clintwood sat on that movie for years until he thought he could do it justice.

Great film.
Has twice been the subject of study at 'A' levels here.

Amongst the "Wessie" genre, I liked Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch ... and of course,
Kevin Costner's Dances with Wolves.

I love Dead Man. Not much chat, Neil Young noodling in the background non-stop throughout the film. Ol' JJ classic.